Power Vision Information Thread
#8581
05-22-2016, 12:24 PM
Nice thread.
I just got finished installing set of V&H power duals, monster round mufflers and a fuel moto hi-flow cleaner with the power vision tuner on my 2015 Ultra limited. Flashed the map supplied with the power vision from fuel moto and bike seems to be running great with no popping on decel and good performance on acceleration. In looking at all the options available to monitor on the PV I notice the air fuel ratio is only 11.2 on both cylinders at idle and at cruising only increase to 11.7-11.8. I remember with tuning cars you were always looking to achieve 14.7 AFR. So my question is are these ratio values normal for newer bikes. Also I hear a slight noise from the cleaner area during acceleration like a slight rumble. Plan on calling tech at fuel-moto on Monday but thought maybe someone might have same setup and be able to offer feedback. Thanks
I just got finished installing set of V&H power duals, monster round mufflers and a fuel moto hi-flow cleaner with the power vision tuner on my 2015 Ultra limited. Flashed the map supplied with the power vision from fuel moto and bike seems to be running great with no popping on decel and good performance on acceleration. In looking at all the options available to monitor on the PV I notice the air fuel ratio is only 11.2 on both cylinders at idle and at cruising only increase to 11.7-11.8. I remember with tuning cars you were always looking to achieve 14.7 AFR. So my question is are these ratio values normal for newer bikes. Also I hear a slight noise from the cleaner area during acceleration like a slight rumble. Plan on calling tech at fuel-moto on Monday but thought maybe someone might have same setup and be able to offer feedback. Thanks
#8582
05-22-2016, 09:59 PM
Tourer
Yes it is derived. I probably used something like this.
Under (Calculated Field) (Custom Field) (Add Custom Field)
Create a name for the field and then define that new custom field as
[Front AFF]*[Front CLI]=10000?1.33:0
Set the Color range by going to (Calculated Field) (Fixed Field Min and Max) (Add Fixed Field Min and Max) and set the range form a minimum of 0 and set the Maximum to 2.
Do the same for the rear and you are good to go.
Andy
Under (Calculated Field) (Custom Field) (Add Custom Field)
Create a name for the field and then define that new custom field as
[Front AFF]*[Front CLI]=10000?1.33:0
Set the Color range by going to (Calculated Field) (Fixed Field Min and Max) (Add Fixed Field Min and Max) and set the range form a minimum of 0 and set the Maximum to 2.
Do the same for the rear and you are good to go.
Andy
I'm a little rusty at deciphering these expressions, but what I think what you gave me is " If AFF times CLI = 10,000 then the result will be 1.33, otherwise zero, with zero being open loop" WTH is the significance of 1.33?
#8583
05-23-2016, 09:03 AM
#8584
05-23-2016, 07:40 PM
#8585
05-23-2016, 08:38 PM
#8586
05-24-2016, 10:15 AM
Sure...I do sometimes. I am currently using MLVHD & Mytune to view/edit tunes. The VE tables are actually starting to line up with continued riding and logging and of course making the changes suggested by MYtune, and then viewing those results in MLVHD. As the tune gets "tighter", SOP dyno feels like its not pulling as hard as before...could just be me overthinking it...
So what would be the benefit of switching the entire map to CL, (minus the idle area to manage heat) and ride around logging? In theory, isnt that kind of what auto tune is doing?
My prior tunes had much higher VE numbers, but I think this is because my CID was still at 110. During AT, I chose scale once...which of course increases the CID, and makes the VE numbers lower...as I understand it...
My ECO is better in the 55-65MPH area (38-45MPG) of course once I go above that, it goes downhill pretty fast..LOL Even though the AFR is 14.6
Anyway.. Here is what I have...
Sorry for all the pics...
Thanks
Glen
So what would be the benefit of switching the entire map to CL, (minus the idle area to manage heat) and ride around logging? In theory, isnt that kind of what auto tune is doing?
My prior tunes had much higher VE numbers, but I think this is because my CID was still at 110. During AT, I chose scale once...which of course increases the CID, and makes the VE numbers lower...as I understand it...
My ECO is better in the 55-65MPH area (38-45MPG) of course once I go above that, it goes downhill pretty fast..LOL Even though the AFR is 14.6
Anyway.. Here is what I have...
Sorry for all the pics...
Thanks
Glen
#8588
05-24-2016, 10:33 AM
#8589
05-25-2016, 09:45 PM
Sure...I do sometimes. I am currently using MLVHD & Mytune to view/edit tunes. The VE tables are actually starting to line up with continued riding and logging and of course making the changes suggested by MYtune, and then viewing those results in MLVHD. As the tune gets "tighter", SOP dyno feels like its not pulling as hard as before...could just be me overthinking it...
So what would be the benefit of switching the entire map to CL, (minus the idle area to manage heat) and ride around logging? In theory, isnt that kind of what auto tune is doing?
My prior tunes had much higher VE numbers, but I think this is because my CID was still at 110. During AT, I chose scale once...which of course increases the CID, and makes the VE numbers lower...as I understand it...
My ECO is better in the 55-65MPH area (38-45MPG) of course once I go above that, it goes downhill pretty fast..LOL Even though the AFR is 14.6
Anyway.. Here is what I have...
Sorry for all the pics...
Thanks
Glen
So what would be the benefit of switching the entire map to CL, (minus the idle area to manage heat) and ride around logging? In theory, isnt that kind of what auto tune is doing?
My prior tunes had much higher VE numbers, but I think this is because my CID was still at 110. During AT, I chose scale once...which of course increases the CID, and makes the VE numbers lower...as I understand it...
My ECO is better in the 55-65MPH area (38-45MPG) of course once I go above that, it goes downhill pretty fast..LOL Even though the AFR is 14.6
Anyway.. Here is what I have...
Sorry for all the pics...
Thanks
Glen
#8590
05-25-2016, 10:02 PM
Whatever - I was just making a suggestion to try and help. Seems he was having an issue getting your "easier to use MLV software" to work.