Power Vision Information Thread
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There have been a few times when I got the message about maxing out the VE at 127.5. The first few times I got the message I hit the "cap" option, but the last two times I chose "scale". My engine displacement is now listed as "143.9". Does that indicate that there is an issue, like a restrictive air filter or something?
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Thanks to anyone that chimes in!
Glen
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I noticed that you are running 44-49 degrees advanced where you're having a lot of your issues as well as 29 advanced in the 90-100 kpa areas.
If I had timing set like that on my bike it would ping like that too.
Just to compare my timing is set at no higher than 41 degrees advance in the mid/low kpa areas above 3000rpm and the highest setting in the 95-100 kpa area is 21 advanced.
Hopefully whittlebeast or someone else knowledgeable will chime in with some insight.
Last edited by JustDave13; 12-01-2015 at 10:25 AM.
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Just wanted to touch base and see for sure you seen my post whittlebeast. Not trying to pester as I value your time tremendously, but rather my post was kinda small, and could easily have been overlooked. This log should be well over an hour. Although I see that the CLI and AFF are 100 solid, I hope there can still be some recommendations. I like to see where I made poor guesses and how to improve the process.. LOL
Thanks to anyone that chimes in!
Glen
Thanks to anyone that chimes in!
Glen
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I'll shut up now and continue to read.
Last edited by JustDave13; 12-01-2015 at 10:46 AM.
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Here is the tune associated with that log.
thanks...
Glen
PS, I am always open to edits and advice...! I want hard strong pull down low-to-mid, managed heat down low for traffic, and decent full eco (35-40) on open highway..LOL Not asking for much am I? LOL
One more edit...
2007 Screaming Eagle Road King 110ci
Stock engine.
Stock A/C but its supposed to be a larger
Vance and Hines Slash Cut round Slipons
Fulsac True Deals Conversion
Thanks
Glen
Last edited by adkg12; 12-01-2015 at 11:38 AM.
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Looking at your calibration there are a few things standing out, the first thing being the timing tables have what I would normally consider WAY too much advance, especially in the light load areas. There is 28 degrees at idle and as much as 50 degrees in the upper RPM low Kpa region, this is a ton of timing, especially considering a SE 110 motor has 210 or more for CCP. The AFR table is also changed to be open loop, however the targets are not changed significantly, this change richened the mixture (very slightly, and ussuming VE was correct) however you removed adaptive fuel correction from the equation. For some reason there were are few rogue 14.6 closed loop cells up in the 100% TP column.
Here are some screenshots of the tables
Timing Table
![](http://s29.postimg.org/4g93j7k4n/Timingtable.jpg)
AFR Table
![](http://s2.postimg.org/ni9tvqxl5/AFtable.jpg)
I have revised these tables, renabled closed loop (assuming you are running O2 sensors) and made a few other adjustments to try.
Here are some screenshots of the tables
Timing Table
![](http://s29.postimg.org/4g93j7k4n/Timingtable.jpg)
AFR Table
![](http://s2.postimg.org/ni9tvqxl5/AFtable.jpg)
I have revised these tables, renabled closed loop (assuming you are running O2 sensors) and made a few other adjustments to try.
#7848
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Looking at your calibration there are a few things standing out, the first thing being the timing tables have what I would normally consider WAY too much advance, especially in the light load areas. There is 28 degrees at idle and as much as 50 degrees in the upper RPM low Kpa region, this is a ton of timing, especially considering a SE 110 motor has 210 or more for CCP. The AFR table is also changed to be open loop, however the targets are not changed significantly, this change richened the mixture (very slightly, and ussuming VE was correct) however you removed adaptive fuel correction from the equation. For some reason there were are few rogue 14.6 closed loop cells up in the 100% TP column.
Here are some screenshots of the tables
Timing Table
![](http://s29.postimg.org/4g93j7k4n/Timingtable.jpg)
AFR Table
![](http://s2.postimg.org/ni9tvqxl5/AFtable.jpg)
I have revised these tables, renabled closed loop (assuming you are running O2 sensors) and made a few other adjustments to try.
Here are some screenshots of the tables
Timing Table
![](http://s29.postimg.org/4g93j7k4n/Timingtable.jpg)
AFR Table
![](http://s2.postimg.org/ni9tvqxl5/AFtable.jpg)
I have revised these tables, renabled closed loop (assuming you are running O2 sensors) and made a few other adjustments to try.
Thanks
Glen
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Originally Posted by adkg12
Thank you for your advice and help. Bear in mind, I am new but learning, and one of the best ways to learn, is to ask questions...So what puzzles me, is at the bottom of the screen, when viewing the AFR table, it says that thing about for the most torque..blah blah...between 12.6 & 13.4 afr...but you just set all of mine to pretty much 14.6AFR. How does that equate to strong hard pulling torque at the bottom? And wouldnt that 14.6 make it run hot in traffic? I would guess you would richen it up by increasing the VE tables in those areas...but I am simply guessing. Why do so many people set the AFR to 13.9 across the board? Sorry for the questions that most probably already know, but there is SO much of this and that everywhere, its hard to really get a good and balanced understanding of what a person should really do...I digress, I look forward to running this tune this evening, if the weather holds out.. I am in central Ohio so.. you never know!!
Thanks
Glen
Thanks
Glen
The area of the map that was set to 14.6 are in your cruising range. In those areas you are looking for fuel economy. As you accelerate the fuel is increased to a richer mixture for better performance.
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Quite literally I just now realized I have been reading the AFR tables wrong.. ! It suddenly makes total sense.! Accelerating hard from 2kRPM doesnt use 2k from the left and travel to the right! DUH...it could be 2k and 75-90map!! I feel smarter somehow
LOL...Man I really hope the weather holds out...
Glen
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