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Old 11-06-2015 | 11:06 AM
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When you plug a Power vision into a 2016 wet head Harley does the engine temp still show head temps or does it show coolant temps?
Another thing I found. I have not relicensed my PV to the 2016 yet, however every function works when plugged into my 2016.
 
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Old 11-06-2015 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty901
When you plug a Power vision into a 2016 wet head Harley does the engine temp still show head temps or does it show coolant temps?
Another thing I found. I have not relicensed my PV to the 2016 yet, however every function works when plugged into my 2016.
It can show head, engine, and coolant.
You can't change map until relicensed. It will read and data log any Harley it will plug into.
 
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Old 11-06-2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ke5rbd
It can show head, engine, and coolant.
You can't change map until relicensed. It will read and data log any Harley it will plug into.
I know I need to relicensed to tune but I was surprised everything else worked. Not so sure I want to tune this one . I do like the other tools in the PV
 
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Old 11-07-2015 | 05:47 PM
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Is there any way to be able to see my autotune logs on my computer like they appear while logging so I can compare them? Also is there a way to be able to see how it adjusts my air/fuel ratios? Thanks in advance.
 

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Old 11-07-2015 | 06:37 PM
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IIRC, the auto tune "cell" screen has a start log button at the bottom.
 
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Old 11-10-2015 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
Dynojet Power Vision now supports 2016 HD models. Fuel Moto is adding new calibrations daily. For more info visit http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28398-d...er-vision.html
Do you have a tune map for 2016 Dyna Low Rider with the HO103 engine and the stock SE air filter?
Dynojet says that the original fuel map for the 2015 nonHO103 and the 2016 HO103 are exactly the same, so the 2015 tune maps should be OK without any change for the "High Output" engine.
Is FuelMoto in agreement with that statement or should it be retuned?
 
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Old 11-11-2015 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kidsid99
Is there any way to be able to see my autotune logs on my computer like they appear while logging so I can compare them? Also is there a way to be able to see how it adjusts my air/fuel ratios? Thanks in advance.
Absolutely, you run an Autotune and then save it to a slot on the PV. Then take the PV and plug it into your PC and use WinPV to bring up the new AT tune that the PV created. You can then compare a previous tune with the Compare function and it is advised to set the Compare setting to % when comparing VEs to from one Tune to the next created by the AT. Once you get 3 to 5 ATs done, the AT percentages will be within 5% across all cells, then you are pretty much done.

The Dynojet PowerVision Youtube videos show you how to do a lot of this, and the rest you use the WinPV user manual for.

Just reread your posts and realize you are talking about logs. Still do what I said above for getting the ATs done to get VEs within 5% across all cells, to complete that process. After that you can use a small number of tools to look at logs. Including any spreadsheet like Ms Excell or opensource similar as long as it handles CSV files.

I've had success with Logtuner but have seen lots of banter on here that it doesn't work with the Rushmore bikes. The tools you can use depend on the purpose/problems you are trying to work on. There are some very slick tools out there that are way above my pay grade. If you are looking to resolve spark knock events, a simple CSV spreadsheet collecting the right sensor data, and looking at spark knock, vs map data throttle position etc. All of the log settings needed are also in the PV Users Guide.
 

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Old 11-11-2015 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by oldhippie
Absolutely, you run an Autotune and then save it to a slot on the PV. Then take the PV and plug it into your PC and use WinPV to bring up the new AT tune that the PV created. You can then compare a previous tune with the Compare function and it is advised to set the Compare setting to % when comparing VEs to from one Tune to the next created by the AT. Once you get 3 to 5 ATs done, the AT percentages will be within 5% across all cells, then you are pretty much done.

The Dynojet PowerVision Youtube videos show you how to do a lot of this, and the rest you use the WinPV user manual for.

Just reread your posts and realize you are talking about logs. Still do what I said above for getting the ATs done to get VEs within 5% across all cells, to complete that process. After that you can use a small number of tools to look at logs. Including any spreadsheet like Ms Excell or opensource similar as long as it handles CSV files.

I've had success with Logtuner but have seen lots of banter on here that it doesn't work with the Rushmore bikes. The tools you can use depend on the purpose/problems you are trying to work on. There are some very slick tools out there that are way above my pay grade. If you are looking to resolve spark knock events, a simple CSV spreadsheet collecting the right sensor data, and looking at spark knock, vs map data throttle position etc. All of the log settings needed are also in the PV Users Guide.
Somehow something I am doing is not working right cause I have the autotunes saved in PV but when I try and open them up in compare it only opens 1. And when they are saved they seem to be saving in .pvt instead of csv even though I went in and csv is or seems to be how it is saving them. I did not see any videos on this particular topic. I watched all the rest of them though. Thanks for reply and maybe you can give me some pointers on rest I have stated.
 
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Old 11-11-2015 | 09:28 PM
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A PVT file is the actual tune that is sent to the ECU to run the bike. A CSV file is a data log that is a recording you can open in an engine graphing program to "see" how the motor is running.

Andy
 

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Old 11-11-2015 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whittlebeast
A PVT file is the actual tune that is sent to the ECU to run the bike. A CSV file is a data log that is a recording you can open in an engine graphing program to "see" how the motor is running.

Andy
So how do I get those out and what engine graphing program you suggest?
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