dick much? i do know what i am talking about. look at it this way, there are at least 5 of us right here that are using the pv. if bob (iclick) bought it for 500, flashed his bike, then shipped it to me and i flashed my bike, then shipped it to mtclassic, who flashed his bike..... and so on. dj has made 500, and 5 bikes got flashed, basically a cost of 100 per bike. now put this on a larger scale, and the company is out a ton of money (that they could be using to improve the product) and iclick is the only honest one of us (questionably, since he shipped the product to me in the first place) while the other 4 of us are pirating the product.

if it makes you feel better, then think about it this way. they are charging you a 500 dollar license fee per bike.

and those units that they use on cars that are able to flash several vehicles, i believe they cost a lot more.

you buy the unit you should be able to use it as much as you want to... you aren't buying the unit, you are buying the right to use the unit on one bike. just like software, you don't own it, you own the right to use it according to the companies licensing agreement.

like qtracer said, if you don't like the way the company does business, don't buy it. we won't mind.

so you just have yourself a nice day

 

No you look at it this way. You are not worth the effort. Please pull out!!!!!!!!

 

deleted out of respect for iclick......

move along, nothing to see here folks

 

hope i get home in time to print out iclicks first post want to re read it when my power vision geys here. Before they end up deleting the thread.

 

Lets get back on track here....so what about those Power Visions! OR do I wait to see the new PCV add-on?

 

We go through this in the photography business. Buy a new camera realizing it will be superseded by a new model in a few months. If you wait for the new model you'll never get a new camera. In the case of PV I think it'll be DJ's flagship tuner for a while. Remember that the PCV was introduced two years ago, with AT coming out only a few weeks later, and that was their latest offering. In the ensuing months I think we'll see PV mature with apps and features added that'll make it even more versatile. I'm looking forward to working with it.

 

Good logic! I'll probably switch over to the PV when I get my heads from FM.

 

I'm in need of a tuner.
I have done the a/c and slip ons but have a set of 255's to put in soon.
As it happens, you and I have the same bike, live in similar climates, and seem to have similar riding styles.

I'm less interested in auto tune than I am in a tuner in general. Switching on the fly is an added bonus.

I'm just a guy looking for a good deal from a guy with a good reputation.
I'm not against Jamie making a buck, and have priced a new unit from him already. I'd be all over a new PV but I barely can cover a new PCV on my budget.

I know I have to do something, I'm just exploring all the options.

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And just like the photography business the same guys/girls always end up taking the best photos no matter what camera they are holding. Talent wins out everytime. The best tuners will still build the best tunes no matter what media they utilize and no backyard wrench will approach what the best guys can do. But that doesn't mean the amateur can't have fun learning and doing a tune job themselves.

 

I use only two cameras in my business now, both three-or-four-YO pro digital cameras. I've avoided at least two generations of newer cameras because I like what I have and feel like the image-quality for my purposes won't improve by upgrading. I've never been one to upgrade just for its own sake or for the thrill of obtaining a new toy, and in my own mind at least must have good reason to do so. The same goes for tuners or anything else.