I have the fuelmoto 2-1-2, fuelmoto A/C,and jackpot 4 inch mufflers. Basicly a stage 1. i still have the stock cams. i would like to do the cams over the winter. That is why i was wondering if people have had good luck without a dyno tune and just using the powervision AT feature. Sounds like it works pretty good.

have fun tomorrow. i think im gonna head north to Mt Washington area.

 

Be prepared for heavy traffic. I like Rt 153 which parallels Rt 16 north of Rochester all the way to Conway. Stop at the Poor Mans Pub for lunch or a Coke.

Ride safe! Sounds like you have a great Stage 1 there! Gotta' love FuelMoto!

 

[quote:Boston Chris;...That is why i was wondering if people have had good luck without a dyno tune and just using the powervision AT feature. Sounds like it works pretty good...quote]

BC- I for one, have had good luck tuning without a dyno yet. It's taken nearly a year and ride/tuning off and on; reading every page of this and related threads; some calls to FM and DJ (great help); and making small change steps; and then redoing some things.

The 'canned' PV map I got from the builder was a start (not the best, but that's a whole other tale).
Bottom line: it can be done, but as both Jim and Truk and said over and over, "it's not easy -- it's hard work".

I'm 90+% where I want to be and good enough to ride and not change; but there's the O/C thing going.... and I know it can be better....

Good luck.

 

Good riding in the Sunapee Area. I especially like it in the fall.

Sounds like you have it dialed in...you probably don't need the AT-100 but it would be interesting to see what results you'd get with it.

I think your 07 already has wide band O2 sensors.

 

I added cams, and used PV to tune. I got great results...I don't think a dynotune is necessary. I can't imagine improving performance beyond my current tune.

I have a Fuel Moto base map for the 48H cams and of course my improved tunes. It ran pretty well with the base map...even better now. Tuning process is the same as you've done for stage 1.

If I remember correctly, you were looking at the Woods 222 cams. The specs are pretty close to the 48H cams. The 48's might come on a little sooner. The cams really woke the motor up. It's much more fun to drive with lots of torque starting just off idle and continuing to redline. Response is smooth and linear...it feels like its got an electric motor.

Why wait til winter? You can't imagine what your missing. I still can't get the grin off my face.

 

I've had both chassis and the 09-up is well worth the investment. Rides and handles much better, and I really like the bigger tires. Good solid footprint. I have an 05 Deluxe and it feels like it has bicycle tries after riding the Road King.

The CAT is no fun. It runs incredibly hot...to the point that your right leg and foot feel like they are on fire on hot days. It didn't last long on my bike.

 

I'll check into that.. thanks for the heads up. First time I've heard that.

iClick has a 07 (first post in this thread), but I think he had a purchased the AT-100 WB kit as a part of his PCV implementation.

 

Hey Stailjim, I logged several logs with the CLI data added to my logs and that is some good info there. The first one was from my map I had been running and the second log was the OL map made from your AFR map image. The bike ran better and even got slightly better mpg with the OL map believe it or not. The logs looked better too. Less and smaller knock retards and less CLI changes. CLI changes were mostly 3-4% with the rare 6% change all by itself. I did an Log Tuner map using the new OL map and the 3 data logs I have made with that map and loaded that back on the PV. I did a map compare and other than one lone cell off in the lower right area of the VE front, all the changes were 2% or less and that was only in maybe 10 cells total. Rear was even less number of cell changes with the max being 3%. Timing was 2% max on the front and .5% on the rear so it is still only pulling a small amount of timing out. I did two more logs on this new map today. They look better than yesterdays logs. Less timing knock events and lower numbers. CLI changes were fewer and farther apart with only a couple 5% changes that last for 1 millisecond!

So tonight I used Log Tuner to edit today's map and like yesterdays LT change, today's was very small changes in timing and almost nothing in the VE tables. I will load that one tomorrow and do some more logs to see what that does.

I rode with one of my buds today too. He has a 2013 Roadglide with 255 cams, se breather, and Bub 2:1 exhaust. He has had it tuned at the dealer with the SE Race tuner 3 times over the last month. He was very happy with the last tune they did and I thought it was really good as well when I picked up his bike for him. Today we lined them up against each other and did a hard 1 - 4 gear pull. We sat side by side for the whole pull. I didn't gain or lose anything. Now I know we have a weight difference with him and his bike being 200 LBS heavier than me and mine, but with his free'er breathing exhaust and dyno tunning I felt he should probably be making a little more power. I can say this though, I am happy with mine for sure as for how it runs. I would still like to get a little better mpg, but I guess I can't have everything. MPG riding normal before the last map update was 37 mpg. Before I did all the upgrade to the 103 and heads using the PC III I got 39 so I didn't really lose that much. 12 miles to a tank.

I leave on a guy's trip with my bud and 5 others for Utah and Colorado next Friday and 3AM so I don't know how much tuning I will do between now and then. I do plan to do some logs while I am out there just to see what is going on with the elevation changes and temp changes.

I really do appreciate all the help from you and the others in this group.

 

NH....thanks...ill have to take a look at the 48H then. Sounds like a good fit. Good to hear people have had good results tuning with a cam installed. Starting to like this PV a little better than i did before....or im just getting use to it.

 

I checked and I was wrong. You have the larger 18mm O2 sensors, but they are narrow band.