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Old 11-02-2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffJA
My probelm is i cant figure what adjustments affect what, VE, spark knock, etc..etc...
I know what my bike does, but i dont know what i need to adjust to fix it..any one understand?....i want to learn, but im lost! I hate to keep asking fuel-moto for revised maps, id like to mess with it myslef.
In order to receive help tell us what your bike is doing that you want changed.
 
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Old 11-02-2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser85257
Quicktune is what the name suggests. You can access a number of settings and make changes without the need for a laptop and the WinPV software. Just hook up the power vision and go into quick tune and look at the various pages and all the options you have the ability to change.
That's actually autotune, I was wondering about Quicktune, why or when would it be better than Autotune. And then the other question was does autotune only work in the green screen view or is it functional in the gauge mode if its enabled.
 
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Old 11-02-2012 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenjr
Hello, when auto tuning is the auto tune only working when the Green Screen is displayed or can you be in one of the gauges screens.
Also, what is the main purpose of quick tune, by definition it must tune quicker but I don't see an explanation of what is happening during Qicktune.
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I'll give this one a shot. PV only actively collects data when the screen is green. During the early beta testing the screen was quite a distraction as it switched between and green and data collecting was somewhat slow. I wouldn't think that your screen is red all that often.

Here is how I use quick tune. My tune is finished, I'm happy with it but want to tweak it or experiment a bit with it. I decide to add 2% more timing in the cruise range. I do this with the PV connected to the bike, make the changes, save and load. This has only changed the tune in the ECM and not the original tune in the PV that you originally loaded. Now I ride and enable the gauge display and even datalog to see how effective this change is. If I don't experience any knock activity I may bump it again.

Another use. Your on a long trip and you want to try and improve your mpg, you can lean it out via an increase in lambda and monitor. How about if you got a tank of crap gas? You can now richen the fuel or retard the timing in the global areas that is pinging or knocking right there on the road in a matter of minutes. Any other tuner and it's computer or dyno hookup time.

For the most part changes are made globally to those areas identified in the docs as Low Loads, Decel, Med Loads, Lugging and High Loads for the Spark, Fuel, and VE range tables.

Change only one thing at a time and do it in small increments and observe what the result was. Take notes as you go along so remember exactly what you did, why you wanted to do it, and what the result was.

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Old 11-02-2012 | 07:50 PM
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Thanks Delta, that is what I was looking for.
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Old 11-03-2012 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenjr
That's actually autotune, I was wondering about Quicktune, why or when would it be better than Autotune. And then the other question was does autotune only work in the green screen view or is it functional in the gauge mode if its enabled.
No, that's quicktune. Like I said it allows you to make changes without a laptop. Autotune once activated monitors and changes VE settings under actual driving conditions. Autotune does not make on the spot changes like quick tune.
 
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Old 11-03-2012 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser85257
Quicktune is what the name suggests. You can access a number of settings and make changes without the need for a laptop and the WinPV software. Just hook up the power vision and go into quick tune and look at the various pages and all the options you have the ability to change.
Thanks for the reply, from your 1st reply you can do all those things in Autotune. But thanks again Delta answered my questions.
Ken
 
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Old 11-05-2012 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tdkkart
If you're willing to do some reading, take a look at the user manual for the TTS Mastertune. While it won't tell you which button to push when on the Power Vision, it will give a very good explanation of most of the tuning parameters that are common to the HD Delphi ECM, and how to use them.
The V-tuning procedure is basically the same as you'll use when auto tuning with the PV.

TTS manual in pdf:
http://www.mastertune.net/downloads/...Guide-v133.pdf

More info:
https://www.box.com/shared/32spoht1c5:
Just got through reading the TTS Mastertune manual. It helped answer a bunch of questions I had. Thanks so much for making it available!
 
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Old 11-05-2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenjr
Thanks for the reply, from your 1st reply you can do all those things in Autotune. But thanks again Delta answered my questions.
Ken
You cannot do all those adjustments in autotune. You have to operate the bike in Autotune mode for at least 30 miles to pick up any changes in your VE table. Quick tune is immediate and by the simple click of a button a change can be made. Quick Tune is adjustments that you make, that you select. Autotune as the name is suggested is automatic and monitors the map and makes note of any changes as the bike is operating. You have no control over auto tune and you have to log miles on the bike for it to do it's thing.
 
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Old 11-05-2012 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser85257
You cannot do all those adjustments in autotune. You have to operate the bike in Autotune mode for at least 30 miles to pick up any changes in your VE table. Quick tune is immediate and by the simple click of a button a change can be made. Quick Tune is adjustments that you make, that you select. Autotune as the name is suggested is automatic and monitors the map and makes note of any changes as the bike is operating. You have no control over auto tune and you have to log miles on the bike for it to do it's thing.
Let it go.
 
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Old 11-05-2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser85257
You cannot do all those adjustments in autotune. You have to operate the bike in Autotune mode for at least 30 miles to pick up any changes in your VE table. Quick tune is immediate and by the simple click of a button a change can be made. Quick Tune is adjustments that you make, that you select. Autotune as the name is suggested is automatic and monitors the map and makes note of any changes as the bike is operating. You have no control over auto tune and you have to log miles on the bike for it to do it's thing.
I never seen anything stating "at lease 30 miles are needed to pick up changes in the VE tables". I have done it with less miles.

But you correct on difference of auto tune and quick tune.

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