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Old 04-19-2011 | 04:45 PM
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OK, I've just plowed through all 31 pages of this thread, and I have a few questions. I'm currently using a TTS.

- At some point, my original (stock) map vanished. I've never really worried about it since the bike's not stock anymore, but should I?

- The PV has nothing like the TTS's V-Tune. So when you do a data run and look at the recording, you're on your own to figure out how you want to adjust the VE tables?

- It'll do speedometer calibration and throttle blade control, right?

- On a 2010 bike, is there any sense in retrofitting the larger O2 sensors and using the 2009 ports? Seems to me like you'd get less cross-talk and less signal contamination from reversion.

- The timing adjustments on the TTS are a bear. Is there a simple chart showing where and when the timing is being pulled, of do you have to play back the data run and look for it?

I'm sure I'll have more questions, but this'll get me going. This looks to be a really interesting product and I'm itching to find an excuse to try it out.
 
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Old 04-19-2011 | 09:32 PM
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Need some HELP PLEASE.

Received my PV today but will not do anything until I receive and install the pipes which should be in this week.

Reading the direction that came with the Win PV, it states three different windows version which I have none of them since I am running a MAC. Does this mean that I cannot run this software or do I really need too????

When I ordered the Power Vision from Jamie, he asked about my application and I told him that my bike is a stock Softail CVO (110 SE) and that I was going to put V&H pipes on the bike and he asked me which ones and I said the Long Shots. With that being said, is the setting already installed on the Power Vision or are they in the software (CD) that I will have to install on a PC and then connect my PV to the computer to install the setting for my bike???

Am sure I will have more questions and hopefully I can get some answer on this thread.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 04-19-2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tex514
Need some HELP PLEASE.

Received my PV today but will not do anything until I receive and install the pipes which should be in this week.

Reading the direction that came with the Win PV, it states three different windows version which I have none of them since I am running a MAC. Does this mean that I cannot run this software or do I really need too????

When I ordered the Power Vision from Jamie, he asked about my application and I told him that my bike is a stock Softail CVO (110 SE) and that I was going to put V&H pipes on the bike and he asked me which ones and I said the Long Shots. With that being said, is the setting already installed on the Power Vision or are they in the software (CD) that I will have to install on a PC and then connect my PV to the computer to install the setting for my bike???

Am sure I will have more questions and hopefully I can get some answer on this thread.

Thanks in advance.
My PV came from Fuel Moto with the new Tune for my setup already installed on the PV unit itself (it was in slot 1 of the tune manager). You should be able to hook the unit up to the bike, save your stock tune and flash the new tune using only the PV unit itself. The software CD has the Win PV software for viewing, comparing and editing tunes and is not needed just to flash a new tune. I think that you will need a PC to use the Win PV software and to run the update client. My PV came pre-loaded with the most current firmware/software too thanks to Fuel Moto.

Good Luck!
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
- At some point, my original (stock) map vanished. I've never really worried about it since the bike's not stock anymore, but should I?
If you buy a PV from Fuel Moto they will likely have a stock tune for your bike that they can provide, but I don't think you'd need one unless you are importing a PC map into the ECM, and you're not going to do that. Other than this I'm not sure why the stock tune even needs to be retained. You can't unmarry the PV and bike, so it isn't like you can return it to stock and remove the PV.

- The PV has nothing like the TTS's V-Tune. So when you do a data run and look at the recording, you're on your own to figure out how you want to adjust the VE tables?
The PV Tuner application for the AT-100 Pro (WB sensors) is now in beta and it is reportedly a remarkable tool that will gather the data from the AT-100 and ECM to produce a very accurate tune of AFR's. I'm not sure how it works with timing, but as soon as I get my CAN cable and J1850 splitter I will be working with this app.

There will also be an AT-100 Basic, which will work with the stock NB O2 sensors, but its introduction will follow the Pro version.

- It'll do speedometer calibration and throttle blade control, right?
Yes, but the latter only if you have a TBW bike, of course.

- On a 2010 bike, is there any sense in retrofitting the larger O2 sensors and using the 2009 ports? Seems to me like you'd get less cross-talk and less signal contamination from reversion.
If you use the AT-100 Pro will have to go with 18mm since the WB sensors are that size. The Basic will allow use of the stock sensors, whatever size they are on your bike.

- The timing adjustments on the TTS are a bear. Is there a simple chart showing where and when the timing is being pulled, of do you have to play back the data run and look for it?
I've done some datalogs that show TP, MAP, RPM, Front Knock Retard, and Rear Knock Retard signals. You can export them to your computer and open it up in Excel to view the results.
 

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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tex514
Reading the direction that came with the Win PV, it states three different windows version which I have none of them since I am running a MAC. Does this mean that I cannot run this software or do I really need too????
Can't you dual-boot into Windows? If not, I would just buy a cheap Windows notebook or netbook computer and use it. It doesn't need to be fancy, but any XP or later notebook will do. You can find these on Craig's List or Ebay for <$150. I'm using a $250 2-lb. netbook with SSD drives that I also carry along on trips to check email, access the Net, etc. I also have the software installed on my desktop for editing.

When I ordered the Power Vision from Jamie, he asked about my application and I told him that my bike is a stock Softail CVO (110 SE) and that I was going to put V&H pipes on the bike and he asked me which ones and I said the Long Shots. With that being said, is the setting already installed on the Power Vision or are they in the software (CD) that I will have to install on a PC and then connect my PV to the computer to install the setting for my bike???
The tune for you bike should be on the PV as a custom tune. You can connect it up and flash the ECM with that new tune and you're ready to ride. You'll need the computer to edit tunes, view datalogs, and get software and firmware updates, the latter of which are important since the product is new and these updates are frequent.
 

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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:56 AM
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First of all, want to thank all for the replies.

You'll need the computer to edit tunes, view datalogs, and get software and firmware updates, the latter of which are important since the product is new and these updates are frequent.
If I do not intend to make anymore changes in the future other than want I am doing now, is that going to be important to me.
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 05:33 AM
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Cool, thanks iclick.
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hover
Has Dynojet ever mentioned if they are going to print a detailed manual? I have read the TTS manual and that's what we PV guys need.
Dynojet is currently working on a detailed instruction and user manual, I will post when it is available
 
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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
OK, I've just plowed through all 31 pages of this thread, and I have a few questions. I'm currently using a TTS.

- At some point, my original (stock) map vanished. I've never really worried about it since the bike's not stock anymore, but should I?

- The PV has nothing like the TTS's V-Tune. So when you do a data run and look at the recording, you're on your own to figure out how you want to adjust the VE tables?

- It'll do speedometer calibration and throttle blade control, right?

- On a 2010 bike, is there any sense in retrofitting the larger O2 sensors and using the 2009 ports? Seems to me like you'd get less cross-talk and less signal contamination from reversion.

- The timing adjustments on the TTS are a bear. Is there a simple chart showing where and when the timing is being pulled, of do you have to play back the data run and look for it?

I'm sure I'll have more questions, but this'll get me going. This looks to be a really interesting product and I'm itching to find an excuse to try it out.
Looks like Iclick answered your questions, they are still working on both Auto Tune applications, I have a software based version I have been testing for them with the AT-100 that works absolutely awesome, cant wait to show you guys the release version. Looking for knock events is very easy in your datalogs, because it is displayed numerically in a spreadsheet you just follow the knock retard column and look for any data and everything is right there, you do not need to go thru frames to find it. As far as your stock calibration I have saved OEM calibrations for most applications and can provide them if needed.
 

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Old 04-20-2011 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tex514
First of all, want to thank all for the replies.



If I do not intend to make anymore changes in the future other than want I am doing now, is that going to be important to me.
Your Power Vision was shipped last week with the latest firmware and software. Your calibration has been loaded in the tune manager, all you need to do is flash your calibration and you should be all set.
 


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