Could you explain that again please? Do you mean you have put values other than 14.6 in the AFR tables and its still operating in closed loop?

 

I have a 2009 FLHT equipped with the SEPST. I was using the basic 96" stage 1 download (dealer loaded) when it was in that config and it ran very good. Over winter I had a 103" flat tops, Andrews 54H cams/ .030 head gasket build done. I also had the heads ported, valves reseated along with 1.900 intakes. The dealer loaded a 103"/255 stage 2 map for a break-in and it just isn't quite right. It runs well enough but it does burble/sputter a bit various times, mostly at throttle tip-in. If anything, it's a bit rich for my lower rpm break-in (not above 3800rpm now). A couple members (tuners) suggested using a 2009 tourer map for 103" flat top/SE204 cams/stock-perf heads and stock injectors. It is calibration 009SBK001. To this it was suggested to take it out of closed loop configuration and add 5 CI to the constant. Now my question ? I can ride to the dealer and suggest this or I can buy the software/dongle locally at 20% off and try to do it myself. How complicated would this be? I have minimal experience with older PCIII software but this looks far more advanced. Could I hook up the VCI and do a data run when it is warmed up and download changes this way? Howabout some input please troop

 

Lambda ARF tables are differsent, and allow for this change. You see this in the touring maps.

in othe maps you can trim with CLB or you can boost the VE a little in the cruise area to make it run richer while in closed loop for tge cruise portion of the map while leaving the bias tables alone. Hope this helps.

 

Please read the .pdf files that come with the sofware when installed. It explaina all of this.

 

This is a great thread, probably one of the most usefull I have found in a long time. Do you disable EITMS on a properly tuned bike because it won't ever come into condition where it would turn on, or just don't care for the function?

 

Off the line it was always snappy, great torque. The difference was at cruise at about 3000 rpm and twist the throttle to pass. don't get me wrong it passed before, however now it snaps to it and speed increases at a much faster rate, before it was a slower accelaeration. There is also the sound in th exhaust like a 'turbo boost'? hard to put into words

also when in 4th, 5th and 6th gears if I have to slow done to and rpm goes to 2000, it will accelerate and pull whereas before I would have to shift down

 

what editbrain said, with no CLB adjustment table, it seems to allow drop to 14.3, at 14.2 is open

 

sounds like you had the dealer flash the ECM. the (dongle) VCI and software do not allow you to retrieve from the ECM, only to flash a new setting.

check out this link, it suggests that a stage 1 for TC96 is th esame as stage 2 TC103
http://tuneyourharley.com/biketech/c...l-map-revealed

 

What do you think?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2040865858655#

 

Unless your comfortable building a new map from scratch and using Smart tune to get your bike tuned in do your self a favor and get it to a competent tuner with a dyno, all your doing is killing your fresh build. The dealer who did that doesn't have a clue on how to choose a base map and the damage your doing or more than likely have done to the rings. The Stage 2 map is way wrong for the Andrews 54 due to the duration and intake close of the SE255 vs the 54, they should have started with the Stage 1 map for a 103 and tweaked things from there. Ported heads are another thing which throws a loop through the tuning process. There are times the ported head flows so well you won't have enough room in the VE tables to get it right and have to either bump the injector size down to get them to pulse longer or bump the CI up to get it closer.