103" Ign timing with SERT
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103" Ign timing with SERT
Does anyone have any idea how much timing can be adjusted/advanced in the timing tables using the SERT? Our local dealership's dyno and I are NOT getting along very well. My numbers are low- 75 HP & 92 TQ, at 100 degrees ambient however. SAE Smoothing is 5. Right now I bumped the entire table by +3 degrees, but i see values in cells at 80-100% throttle/4500 & up RPM of up to 48 degrees. Comparable tables for other 103 builds in the Racetuner map directory show upwards of 33-37ish. Is each bike that different?
Jamie at FuelMoto helped me with the +3 bump across the board, but agrees the Stg 2 103/255 cam is good for better numbers. I am wondering if the cam install can be off a few degrees, therefore throwing me that high in adjustments?
The bike feels good all around now, but was bogging a little when I retarded the timing by 2 degrees. Now back at the table defaults and advancing 3 degrees, the bike pulls better, but there is slight ping at initial throttle roll, but goes away after a second or so. My closed loop bias is adjusted to nealry 780 (max) as well.
Just want to get some feedback on timing within the SERT tables. Thanks!!!
Jamie at FuelMoto helped me with the +3 bump across the board, but agrees the Stg 2 103/255 cam is good for better numbers. I am wondering if the cam install can be off a few degrees, therefore throwing me that high in adjustments?
The bike feels good all around now, but was bogging a little when I retarded the timing by 2 degrees. Now back at the table defaults and advancing 3 degrees, the bike pulls better, but there is slight ping at initial throttle roll, but goes away after a second or so. My closed loop bias is adjusted to nealry 780 (max) as well.
Just want to get some feedback on timing within the SERT tables. Thanks!!!
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You can do a data run, find out where the detonation occurs and remove timing or maybe add fuel at the point where the detonation is detected.
I use the SESTP to tune, but I read the TTS manual just to gain more knowlege. He reccomends a procedure where you add three or four degrees across the board and do data runs. Remove timing at the cells where detonation is detected, and repeat the pocess until most cells are at the knock threshhold and then remove four degrees across the board for a safety margin. I tried this, but had the same issue as you with some of the cells have very high numbers. I may try this again.
I use the SESTP to tune, but I read the TTS manual just to gain more knowlege. He reccomends a procedure where you add three or four degrees across the board and do data runs. Remove timing at the cells where detonation is detected, and repeat the pocess until most cells are at the knock threshhold and then remove four degrees across the board for a safety margin. I tried this, but had the same issue as you with some of the cells have very high numbers. I may try this again.
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