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It takes some patience to muddle through the documentation and figure out how it actually works, but it is not bad once through it and you look back.
Bundled in the software is canned maps for bikes, by years with SE air cleaner and "race exhaust" (or cams and what not if needed). It will give the ECM acheivable targets. There is a PDF file called "calibration description" which lists included maps (files) bundled in the software. It takes into account a fair amount of possible changes you could have done to your bike.
This is a very good starting point. The smart tune app takes recorded data (from the dongle (VCI) and "fine tunes" it to your specific bike, riding style, etc.... and dials it in.
Last edited by VTL nut; 06-06-2010 at 06:25 AM.
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I'm not sure that the PITA Power Commander install is so user friendly, but it is a simpler device so it may seem to be easier to use. If you want to tweak the PC it can get complicated in a hurry. Dyno operators usually have dynojet's step by step software tuning tool that saves them some time.
Last edited by ColdCase; 06-06-2010 at 07:40 AM.
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Here is the "stage 1" file as it comes bundled in the SEPST software.
This will provide new tables for "enhanced breating" via pipes and air cleaner.
From here gather data, import it into the program, then let the smart tune app do its job, and recommend new settings.
This will provide new tables for "enhanced breating" via pipes and air cleaner.
From here gather data, import it into the program, then let the smart tune app do its job, and recommend new settings.
Last edited by VTL nut; 06-06-2010 at 08:33 AM.
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You do NOT have to do dyno runs with the SEST if you can find a canned map supplied with the unit that comes reasonably close to your setup. There's a lot of testing that went into these maps by people who really know what they're doing. As a result, the canned maps are very good and fit in with all SE mods and most 3rd party ones. But, if you're going to be racing on the track and made radical changes? Sure, you'll need a dyno.
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Cold Case, how much dyno time does your dealer say it will take?
I have been quoted from 2 to 6 hours, and I know that is pure Bravo Sierra.
6 hours to remove side cover and install plug into serial data port, another into the dongle and then into computer, turn bike on and install canned map and then start tweaking via computer screen. I mean really.... Not to mention $1300.00 for parts and dyno time from the only HD Shop on Vancouver Island.
Ok, ok rant off.
The Service writer will ask you what mods are done to your ride, what your riding style is and do you ride two up, etc... others will chime in on what I have missed .This will give the dyno operator the info he/she will need to tune the bikes ecm to perform at its best.
Power Comander is another better option for the average rider and is somewhat more user friendly when you see how things are adjusted.
Your Mileage will vary as does mine from yours.
Rob
I have been quoted from 2 to 6 hours, and I know that is pure Bravo Sierra.
6 hours to remove side cover and install plug into serial data port, another into the dongle and then into computer, turn bike on and install canned map and then start tweaking via computer screen. I mean really.... Not to mention $1300.00 for parts and dyno time from the only HD Shop on Vancouver Island.
Ok, ok rant off.
The Service writer will ask you what mods are done to your ride, what your riding style is and do you ride two up, etc... others will chime in on what I have missed .This will give the dyno operator the info he/she will need to tune the bikes ecm to perform at its best.
Power Comander is another better option for the average rider and is somewhat more user friendly when you see how things are adjusted.
Your Mileage will vary as does mine from yours.
Rob
#20
I know in other forums they have had "discussions" over broadband and narrow band sensors. Never have I once heard of a stabilty issue with the TTS. Not the same for the SESPT. Not to bash your dealer but sounds like an excuse for not being able to tune with these devices.