Hi UN
I had a look at the front 02 and did what you said with the paper clip and the sensor seems to be right in the air flow as the bung is only just over 3/8 deep. It was a bit hard to measure with the headers on the bike but I got a piece of wire into the front header.
I also found a exhaust leak on the crossover pipe so that wouldn't have been helping.
Sorry I thought I had posted this but Im still trying to figure out how this dropbox works
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bca8dhkcpt...-VTune-004.MT8

 

As PT stated, there really is NO reason to increase the fuel across the board. This type of 'carburetor' thinking is outmoded with todays EFI systems, and all it would serve is to waste fuel and make the bike run like ****.

Again... think about what has been said... timing is the biggest contributor to heat... NOT how much fuel. The true temperature difference, coming out of the exhaust port is less than like 100* per a whole AFR unit. Not enough, or too much timing, OTOH, really can whack exhaust temps.

Using most of the TTS base maps should cure most of this. I find the TTS timing maps to be quite decent, if a little conservative. When done with v-tune runs... doing timing runs is very important and the TTS manual gives a good explanation on how to proceed.

Or... wait a bit and V-Tune3 will be released and that has a feature to tune timing while tuning the fuel. Pretty slick.

Dude... you do NOT wish to simply increase fuel across the board. The biggest falicy going on is richer is cooler. That is only true to a point. TIMING controls heat output.

 

I think the dips you're seeing down low are simply your pipe configuration. Other than "seeing" the dip on the graph, how does it feel?

 

Rides pretty good but not as much grunt as it had before

 

it will get better. Is this the first mt8 file created from your runs?

 

This is the second the first I just lowered the idle and did low down revs and just putted around the back streets got some good data up to 3000

 

Hi UN & Wiz
Ive done 5 VTunes here are the files and I did a data run after I put the new map back to the normal settings still getting a lot of retard happening
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5wlaq6u7f...%206VTUNES.MT8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozoegcyopr...003-02-r02.dm3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r22jzrxgsrivgu7/DTA044-03-A0-VTune-007.MT8https://www.dropbox.com/s/95179v2xzi5oker/DBW03-r03.dm3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q29ogf8gnigknpb/DBW04-r04.dm3
Should I keep tuning or is there a problem somewhere
Thanks Guys

 

kiwi.. highlight all the red cells in your timing tables and drop them by 3* and make a run. lets see what that looks like.

 

Ok will do that tomorrow thanks mate

 

What do you make of this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/36lfk1ap56...eneral-r22.dm3

mt8 file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f41nh3tfmc...noller-001.MT8