fly by wire throttle issues
#1
fly by wire throttle issues
i have been reading about all the fly by wire throttle issues..... this **** is dangerous !!! it is the most stupid thing ever done to a motorcycle... while most will never have trouble they will be some that die because of it !!!!
Here is my reason..... they put some on a boat i was working on and we had a little hand held vhf raido/cb and when we keyed the mic it reved up to WFO/redlined in 3/4 sec.... so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle...... certain raido feq can interfer with them !!!!
bash me if you want but i had to post my experience and my opinion
so plz be very carefull
Here is my reason..... they put some on a boat i was working on and we had a little hand held vhf raido/cb and when we keyed the mic it reved up to WFO/redlined in 3/4 sec.... so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle...... certain raido feq can interfer with them !!!!
bash me if you want but i had to post my experience and my opinion
so plz be very carefull
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Stellar HDF Member
#3
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
ORIGINAL: towboattrash34
so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle......
so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle......
When I was in the automotive chassis dyno business,seen throttles stick WOT several times due to defective throttle cables and return springs. I wouldrather beflying in a plane withoutsuch cables and return springs, OK if my bike was that way to.
#4
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
Failures are possible on almost anything. Tires, suspension piviots, brake seals, front axle bolts .... Even a carb needle valve failure can cause fire with 4 gal of fuel between your legs and 30000 volts of ignition a 300 degrees of hot cylinders all within 4" of each other wile riding at 70 MPH and no air bags. Motorcycles are not "safe".
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#5
Big Kahuna HDF Member
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
ORIGINAL: Duracell
Get used to it.
Most cages today are throttle by wire. In the next few years vertually all motorized vehicles willhave electronically controlled throttles.
Get used to it.
Most cages today are throttle by wire. In the next few years vertually all motorized vehicles willhave electronically controlled throttles.
#6
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
LOL. Someone please point me to the posts on the new electronic throttle issues that he is talking about. I personally haven't heard of any issues myself, but I haven't been looking for any. I still have an 02 and an 07 with the cables. I had an 04 Acura TL that had electronic throttle and never once hada problem with that. They claimed it made throttle response quicker than a cable, but I couldn't tell any difference myself, must have been in the milliseconds of a difference, that would be .1 or .2 seconds difference, maybe even slower. All I can say is everytime they change something like this on the Harley, you will get a lot of push back. The good thing about this is that if you don't like the new stuff, just keep rebuilding your old Harley, no one is going to force you into buying a new bike. I for one, could care less about the electronic throttle, I could take it or leave it. It does make it nicer that you have no cable to lubricate now and 2 less cables going down the handlebars. I haven't tried to replace grips on this type of setup, but hopefully no more brass ferules to loose. Don't ask me how I know about that. I do like the ABS option, but I am sure there are tons of people saying that is going to kill someone too. I am too young in the motorcycle world to know about this, but I heard that when the Twin Cam motor came out, there were lots of people saying that it was a piece of garbage and they were all embracing the EVO, the Pan, Shovel or Knuckle Head. I wonder if the electric starter was considered bad when it first came out. Now a kick start draws a crowd at your local bike nite when it is time to start it. People gather around to watch some old timer break his leg.
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Road Captain
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
I find this rather somewhatamusing. What are you trying to do by throwing fear to those that have no mechanical background?
Lets look at your situation closer. Just how close did you put that transmitter to any of the bike components? Come on now tell the truth....I'll bet it had to be within inches. I deal with this all the time with people installing business band radios, CBs etc and causing some interference, problem was they ran the coax right over the vehicle harness. The next thing that happens is that the ECM should go into derate or shut down completly. If it dosen't shut down I would be real concerned with the operating software. Take a look around and you will see almost everything is "run by wire" anymore. Take a look at Harley's FI bikes and you will see the throttle does not controlled the fuel, only the air butterfly. The fuel is controlled by the ECM and metered by the injectors.
Lets look at your situation closer. Just how close did you put that transmitter to any of the bike components? Come on now tell the truth....I'll bet it had to be within inches. I deal with this all the time with people installing business band radios, CBs etc and causing some interference, problem was they ran the coax right over the vehicle harness. The next thing that happens is that the ECM should go into derate or shut down completly. If it dosen't shut down I would be real concerned with the operating software. Take a look around and you will see almost everything is "run by wire" anymore. Take a look at Harley's FI bikes and you will see the throttle does not controlled the fuel, only the air butterfly. The fuel is controlled by the ECM and metered by the injectors.
#10
RE: fly by wire throttle issues
ORIGINAL: towboattrash34
i have been reading about all the fly by wire throttle issues..... this **** is dangerous !!! it is the most stupid thing ever done to a motorcycle... while most will never have trouble they will be some that die because of it !!!!
Here is my reason..... they put some on a boat i was working on and we had a little hand held vhf raido/cb and when we keyed the mic it reved up to WFO/redlined in 3/4 sec.... so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle...... certain raido feq can interfer with them !!!!
bash me if you want but i had to post my experience and my opinion
so plz be very carefull
i have been reading about all the fly by wire throttle issues..... this **** is dangerous !!! it is the most stupid thing ever done to a motorcycle... while most will never have trouble they will be some that die because of it !!!!
Here is my reason..... they put some on a boat i was working on and we had a little hand held vhf raido/cb and when we keyed the mic it reved up to WFO/redlined in 3/4 sec.... so for that reason alone i will never use or get a fly by wire throttle...... certain raido feq can interfer with them !!!!
bash me if you want but i had to post my experience and my opinion
so plz be very carefull