Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
#3191
10-03-2008 | 01:26 PM
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Road Master
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From: Arizona
I am in Dallas Texas
Direct Link is as follows:
Delphi
USB Key to access software and lock to customer bike
ALDL conversion box to allow flashing of ECU
Cable from ALDL box to plug into Delphi ECU
RS232 Cable from computer to ALDL box
The USB keys list price for $279.00. I own the ALDL box and the cables so this is all the customer has to pay for plus the price of the custom tuning. For an individual to DIY and buy all of this stuff it would be along the lines of a TMAX( I do not know exact price). No data collection capability but there is a live engine parameter screen while bike is running. DL also has a AutoTuning feature for all the popular AFR probes out there(LC-1, DTT, AFM, etc.etc). This may not be suitable for those that want to DIY, but for a tuner with a Dyno it has all the features of SERT plus can autotune the VE tables if so desired. They do have a base list of calibrations that covers most applications. Most customers of mine are not DIY or are tired of DIY and like the idea of a custom tuned bike and they just have to hit the starter and go. They also realize that if they change air flow through the bike that I will be tuning it again.
M&M
RS232 Cable, Gender changer, M&M communication cable, No ALDL box needed
This is not meant to slam any other product or even sell my services, just pointing out what is working for me and my customers currently.
Direct Link is as follows:
Delphi
USB Key to access software and lock to customer bike
ALDL conversion box to allow flashing of ECU
Cable from ALDL box to plug into Delphi ECU
RS232 Cable from computer to ALDL box
The USB keys list price for $279.00. I own the ALDL box and the cables so this is all the customer has to pay for plus the price of the custom tuning. For an individual to DIY and buy all of this stuff it would be along the lines of a TMAX( I do not know exact price). No data collection capability but there is a live engine parameter screen while bike is running. DL also has a AutoTuning feature for all the popular AFR probes out there(LC-1, DTT, AFM, etc.etc). This may not be suitable for those that want to DIY, but for a tuner with a Dyno it has all the features of SERT plus can autotune the VE tables if so desired. They do have a base list of calibrations that covers most applications. Most customers of mine are not DIY or are tired of DIY and like the idea of a custom tuned bike and they just have to hit the starter and go. They also realize that if they change air flow through the bike that I will be tuning it again.
M&M
RS232 Cable, Gender changer, M&M communication cable, No ALDL box needed
This is not meant to slam any other product or even sell my services, just pointing out what is working for me and my customers currently.
#3192
10-03-2008 | 03:48 PM
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2008
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This really depends if a customer is a DIY kind of person and likes to "tweek" on a bike or if a person is a hit the starter and go type, never wanting to tweek just ride. The SERT, SEST and TTS and Direct Link are similar and the only thing different is the GUI interface. Most people are use to looking at Race Tuner so the SERT,SEST,TTS would be the easiest to use. They also offer data collection and storage of the data.
#3193
10-05-2008 | 12:01 AM
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From: Arizona
This really depends if a customer is a DIY kind of person and likes to "tweek" on a bike or if a person is a hit the starter and go type, never wanting to tweek just ride. The SERT, SEST and TTS and Direct Link are similar and the only thing different is the GUI interface. Most people are use to looking at Race Tuner so the SERT,SEST,TTS would be the easiest to use. They also offer data collection and storage of the data.
#3194
10-06-2008 | 10:54 PM
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 267
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From: Slumped Over
My reply to the original thread subject...
(And I've read all of the posts)
The bike is a 2007 NightTrain, 8000 miles, Rush 1.75 slip-on's and a stock airbox.
Installed the Xied's around the 6500 mile mark.
Never had a pop, ping or backfire.
Took about a hundred miles to dial in the ECU.
Runs cooler and smoother, and gets better every day! Pulls like a Georgia mule from idle till my wife slaps me upside the head.
Thanks NightRider for a genuine great product, and to the original posters for the initial info.
Soooo, what's next?
(And I've read all of the posts)
The bike is a 2007 NightTrain, 8000 miles, Rush 1.75 slip-on's and a stock airbox.
Installed the Xied's around the 6500 mile mark.
Never had a pop, ping or backfire.
Took about a hundred miles to dial in the ECU.
Runs cooler and smoother, and gets better every day! Pulls like a Georgia mule from idle till my wife slaps me upside the head.
Thanks NightRider for a genuine great product, and to the original posters for the initial info.
Soooo, what's next?
#3195
10-06-2008 | 11:01 PM
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From: Arizona
My reply to the original thread subject...
(And I've read all of the posts)
The bike is a 2007 NightTrain, 8000 miles, Rush 1.75 slip-on's and a stock airbox.
Installed the Xied's around the 6500 mile mark.
Never had a pop, ping or backfire.
Took about a hundred miles to dial in the ECU.
Runs cooler and smoother, and gets better every day! Pulls like a Georgia mule from idle till my wife slaps me upside the head.
Thanks NightRider for a genuine great product, and to the original posters for the initial info.
Soooo, what's next?
(And I've read all of the posts)
The bike is a 2007 NightTrain, 8000 miles, Rush 1.75 slip-on's and a stock airbox.
Installed the Xied's around the 6500 mile mark.
Never had a pop, ping or backfire.
Took about a hundred miles to dial in the ECU.
Runs cooler and smoother, and gets better every day! Pulls like a Georgia mule from idle till my wife slaps me upside the head.
Thanks NightRider for a genuine great product, and to the original posters for the initial info.
Soooo, what's next?
#3198
10-23-2008 | 01:50 PM
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From: Arizona
#3199
11-16-2008 | 08:18 PM
Cruiser
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 243
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From: Lasalle County Illinois
Hey all,
Been a long time since I posted here. The last time it was all questions. Thought I would share my experience and results with my 07 Bob and XIED's. I installed Rush slip-ons with 1.75" baffles along with the Stage 1 filter kit ( no download ) and the XIED's. I have since put about 2000 miles on the bike. Most of my trips have been 100 to 200 mile solo rides in northern Illinois, so have had few extreme temp hot or cold. The bike runs very stong with the exception of a slight lugging sound at idle. Nothing major. I did notice about a 25F drop in temp on the front and about 15F on the rear. Just pulled my plugs for storage checks and they look good no indication of lean running. They appear to be a little towards the rich side but not wet or sooty. Between black and brown coloration on the plugs.
Just wanted to share my thoughts.
Thanks
Joe
Been a long time since I posted here. The last time it was all questions. Thought I would share my experience and results with my 07 Bob and XIED's. I installed Rush slip-ons with 1.75" baffles along with the Stage 1 filter kit ( no download ) and the XIED's. I have since put about 2000 miles on the bike. Most of my trips have been 100 to 200 mile solo rides in northern Illinois, so have had few extreme temp hot or cold. The bike runs very stong with the exception of a slight lugging sound at idle. Nothing major. I did notice about a 25F drop in temp on the front and about 15F on the rear. Just pulled my plugs for storage checks and they look good no indication of lean running. They appear to be a little towards the rich side but not wet or sooty. Between black and brown coloration on the plugs.
Just wanted to share my thoughts.
Thanks
Joe
#3200
11-17-2008 | 08:17 PM
