Congratulations on being #3000.

 

I have followed this thread from the start and my bike runs great with the xieds.I noticed that the posts just get longer and longer on this simple add on device.This is good though,on nights when I have insomnia instead of taking drugs I simply read a few of these long winded replies and drop right off to sleep. Goodnight.

 

Well, if it's any consolation, I'm a little shocked by it, too, now after some cooling-off time and reading it again. Just a little, though. More on why not in a bit...

No proof whatsoever was offered. I believe the only proof he's provided to date was a couple sets of data; one was showing highly-unlikely WOT AFRs, but this was on a bike with several of his sensor-functioning mods. The other data set showed nothing about AFR at all, it was rather parts-per-million (or something similar) of CO, etc.

He said Where's the proof in that? And if you'd re-read my post to which he'd responded that way, you'll see I never suggested anything in terms of cost-effectiveness. Not once. In fact I don't believe you'll find me basing any of my arguments in this thread on that parameter.

I quoted "his post" in full just above. What information is there, beyond accusation? I don't see it...

I don't understand it either. In fact, I'm wondering why you even introduce it to the conversation just now, and refer to it as something historical.

He says it's not, but not why it's not. It's okay to have and express an opinion. That's why we're here. But it's usually most helpful, especially if asked, to express not only the opinion, but the basis for it.

I can't decide if that's hilarious or sad. I never said anything about monetary value, merely what is the purpose (utilitarian value) for the download.

How would you characterize the tactic of arguing against something somebody didn't say?

More non-pertinent argument, but I'll entertain it anyway. What difference would it make if the information a person learned came from books at a university or from books sourced elsewhere (probably even the same books anyway)? I've already directly answered those same questions, from you, previously in this thread. Perhaps it was during one of the times you'd had me on "ignore"?

I've provided plenty of proof throughout. I've had to repeat it over and over in the hopes that you might actually read what I'd written "this time" because it was evident you hadn't read it the previous time. It's rather evident still. This is obvious to me (and probably everyone else) because you even yet are challenging me to provide proof to back up things I didn't say. That's a tall order!

 

Apparently not too shocked, I don't see any form of an apology.

I think it's time we put an end to this bickering. I know the rank and file has had enough of it, and I have had enough. It's unproductive and accomplishing absolutely nothing. We have both presented our side. There is nothing new to add without being repetitive.

I doubt we will ever be best friends, but can't we just all get along?

It's time to call it quits Glen.

PEACE!

 

Over 3000 post now and as far as I can find not 1 before and after dyno comparison, WHY?

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't buy the XIED to gain more HP. I simply wanted my Bike to run richer. I think most people think the same way. A dyno run would cost more money than what the XIED cost. I don't need to now how much HP my engine produces. My Butt Dyno tells me it is running good, that's good enough for me.

Here is a recent post in which the owner dynoed his bike before and after installation of the XIED's. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/showp...postcount=2935

 

Don't forget that a Dyno shows more than just HP numbers. It will also show a true AFR curve which would show how well these are working. Just an FYI, I started having some fuel cutoff issues so I removed my XiED's. The problems went away so now I'm on stock AC and no IED's. Fuel mileage is much better and I must say that in comparison, the heat coming off my motor is not much different.

 

Does this mean you guys are crossed off each others Christmas Card list??

 

Probably so.

I'm just so exasperated. I go to great lengths to explain the what, how, and why of it, then get told "no, you're wrong" with no substantiation, and worse, being "verbally" assaulted and/or challenged to provide proof to back up things I didn't say. And the icing on the cake is that I get told I need to apologize for taking defensive maneuvers!

Isn't my English clear enough? Is that the problem?

 

Has nothing to do with taking defensive maneuvers. Your post was a personal attack which is not called for. Then to tell someone to shut the hell up. It was anything but defensive, quite offensive in fact. Common Glens you are alot smarter than that and your comments the following day revealled a Man who knew he stepped over the line, which is very hard for you to admit.

Once again I appeal to you to put an end to this bickering. No apology, no more explainations, and no more repetive posts. We've all said all there is to cover this topic. So it's over now and time to move on.

PEACE, can't we all just get along?