Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
#2491
08-01-2008 | 07:29 AM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
ORIGINAL: cruiser85257
Your very welcome Ballpeen. \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\; Its odd how for the first 2/3 of this thread it was the best bang for the buck.Then along came our dear friend who does not even own one and he has since been on a mission to dissuade people.They do work as you and I know.They work very well.
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I really believe there are people on the thread who do not even own a bike blasting this product, its a shame, because plain and simple they work. \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\; Thanks Cruiser
I really believe there are people on the thread who do not even own a bike blasting this product, its a shame, because plain and simple they work. \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\; Thanks Cruiser
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In degrees fahrenheit what was your \\;\\\\\\;temps on front and rear cylinder before IED's (stock) and after IED's stock.
#2492
08-01-2008 | 10:36 AM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
Bikegar if you start at the beginning of the thread you will find my posts where I documented my temperatures on all rides.The only thing I never did was get a stock reading.My Bike had a TVII on it the first time I got my infrared and started taking readings.
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08-01-2008 | 11:13 AM
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08-01-2008 | 12:19 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
ORIGINAL: RoadTramp113
After reading all the posts theres a question I must ask...does glens work for the MoCo, EPA or CARB? All his opposition to the IEDs just seem to mirror the company line which is to push the download. I can do without the 6200 readline and since all it does is help maintain the 14.7 AFR. it doesn't seem worth it. Has he even read the data or is he just so channeled to the downloads that he doesn't want to even consider that it's a viable and effective option?
Was at the dealer today and asked what I can do to help cool the engine. It seems to me that the only to make it run cooler is the WBO2 set-up and a PCIII (expensive) or the IEDs (practical). The service manager said I didn't hear it from him but the IEDs work so that's the way I'm going.
After reading all the posts theres a question I must ask...does glens work for the MoCo, EPA or CARB? All his opposition to the IEDs just seem to mirror the company line which is to push the download. I can do without the 6200 readline and since all it does is help maintain the 14.7 AFR. it doesn't seem worth it. Has he even read the data or is he just so channeled to the downloads that he doesn't want to even consider that it's a viable and effective option?
Was at the dealer today and asked what I can do to help cool the engine. It seems to me that the only to make it run cooler is the WBO2 set-up and a PCIII (expensive) or the IEDs (practical). The service manager said I didn't hear it from him but the IEDs work so that's the way I'm going.
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08-01-2008 | 12:20 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
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Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
#2496
08-01-2008 | 12:25 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
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In degrees fahrenheit what was your temps on front and rear cylinder before IEDs (stock) and after IEDs stock.
In degrees fahrenheit what was your temps on front and rear cylinder before IEDs (stock) and after IEDs stock.
#2497
08-01-2008 | 12:26 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
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Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
This because they have to run so lean for the EPA. I suspect HD motors will not have a service life they should. If you leave these motors in stock form, I believe you will be tearing into them within 40K miles to do piston work. Unless the MoCo goes to all H2o motors in 2010, this will be common place.
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08-01-2008 | 12:58 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
ORIGINAL: cruiser85257
Then along came our dear friend
Then along came our dear friend
who does not even own one and he has since been on a mission to dissuade people. They do work as you and I know.They work very well.
Believe it or not, I actually have tried using closed-loop with my PC-III. I reported the resultant atrocity somewhere on this site late last summer.
I never said the *IEDs do not do what you say they do. In fact I have shown time and again how it is that they do it. What I have been adding to that is information regarding what they do above and beyond what you claim. That so as to let folks know just what they would be getting in to, and so that they can more accurately assess the situation before they either do or do not do it.
You, my friend, are reaping the benefits of what I have been describing. though you disbelieve it, and it seems as though you might be lucky enough with your selection of parts. But are you really? Maybe you should have Rider pull your heads, or at least go in with a bore-scope and have a look-see. You, or any of us outsiders, do not know just what is going on inside your engine with it set up the way it is. And that is really the message I have been trying to get across. These devices may or may not be problematic in what they do above and beyond their claimed activity, but that is only on a factory-correct tune. Once you leave that safe haven, which you have, you may as well be betting your paycheck on the dice game back in the alley instead of bringing the money straight home to your wife and kids.
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08-01-2008 | 01:09 PM
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08-01-2008 | 01:11 PM
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RE: Nightrider O2 IEDs, Field Test
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This because they have to run so lean for the EPA. I suspect HD motors will not have a service life they should. If you leave these motors in stock form, I believe you will be tearing into them within 40K miles to do piston work. Unless the MoCo goes to all H2o motors in 2010, this will be common place.
ORIGINAL: Rider57
Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
Just tore down the stock 07 FLH models we had for testing. The damage caused by detonation was severe to the heads and piston tops. I could understand 1 bike with problems. But this is on all of them.
This because they have to run so lean for the EPA. I suspect HD motors will not have a service life they should. If you leave these motors in stock form, I believe you will be tearing into them within 40K miles to do piston work. Unless the MoCo goes to all H2o motors in 2010, this will be common place.
Pessimism? Forget it, we will own the last generation of the real thing, after that, it will be dark.