By the way wot was better without xieds

 

WOT is accurately-rich already with all stock parts. Putting the *IEDs in alters the AFVs positive so that however much extra fuel is added in closed-loop is also added in open-loop. That is the way our current EFI works.

If you have aftermarket intake/exhaust and no direct ECU or piggyback correction for them, both closed- and open-loop will be wrong. The ECU will try to correct as best it can while closed-loop and apply those changes to open-loop as well. This is the way our current EFI works.

If your closed-loop changes are non-uniform from stock, and they surely will be, the open-loop corrections will be inconsistent depending on what the closed-loop corrections were when you went open-loop, even if the parts were uniformly different from stock while open-loop, which they surely are not. Not only will open-loop be wrong at least most all the time, but it will be variously wrong from time to time you go there.

Using *EIDs on a stock bike is not really the best idea, but it is a better idea than putting uncorrected-for non-stock parts on. Combining both is very questionable decision-making indeed.

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OK, gotta try the Xieds, especially now that they are $30.00 more than when this thread started, LOL. All I can say, I hope they help, as I live in a area that stays well over 98*-105* in summer. I am here to tell you, my 08 Cali FXDLI is a son of a bitch at traffic lights. That rear cylinder gets so&nbsp\\; hot,&nbsp\\;I got to lift a leg and pray the light turns green fast!&nbsp\\; Al I will have for now is slip on's.

 

BTW, as for mileage, who cares as my bikes MPG is in the toilet anyway. I don't call 34-35 combo good mileage. So, in reality, why complain about a few miles lost on a 4.8 gallon tank????

 

When you drive it the way it should be driven, I suppose there is no need for any changes.
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I think most of us spend to much time in front of traffic-lights.

 

I also have one of the "good" ones(07 fxd) ,after installing modified se slipons the bike lost a little torque and did not idle as well,the xieds corrected this situation and the motor now is running better than stock.

 

I haven't noticed any ill effects of using the IEDs on my stock bike.&nbsp\\; On the contrary it has better throttle response and pulls through the gears stronger.&nbsp\\;What could be the harm from them.&nbsp\\;

 

Your experience is typical of most.&nbsp\\; There's no harm to be worried about, just enjoy them.

 

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