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Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test

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Old 07-17-2008 | 11:28 AM
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You would be hard pressed to find a bike these things could damage.&nbsp\\;\\\\\\;It is just not that much fuel. A CEL light will come on before that.
I really don't know how anyone can say they make the engine Fat.&nbsp\\; Most users of the XIED's report better fuel mileage.&nbsp\\;
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 11:35 AM
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I would be happy to explain but I get keyboard whipped everytime I go "technical".
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 11:42 AM
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That's what I was think'en...on a stock bike...maybe with mods it might be a different story...all ya need to do is an oil anyalsis after 2k miles to see how much fuel dilution your getting..if your getting better mileage, the motor should be fine...
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 11:42 AM
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Thanks Lomax, it will never happen.&nbsp\\; The real issue is WHY?
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:24 PM
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That's what I was think'en...on a stock bike...maybe with mods it might be a different story...all ya need to do is an oil anyalsis after 2k miles to see how much fuel dilution your getting..if your getting better mileage, the motor should be fine...
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I typically see users of the T-Max getting mileage in the 30's.&nbsp\\; The XIED users are getting mileage in the 40's.&nbsp\\; Most guys pull out plugs that are still almost totally white, it sure wouldn't look that way if the Motor was running too Fat.
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:25 PM
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When I am not welcome in someones house, they don't have to tell me that several times.
If he wants me to keep quiet he should not ask me questions. Seems counterproductive to do so, no?
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:43 PM
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I will try to nutshell what I have been saying.

If you have a properly-tuned all-HD-equipped engine (stock or full stage 1 package with download), whenever you go open-loop (see what Whittlebeast said for ranges) you will be fatter than necessary with even the standard IEDs. More so with the Xs.

If you do not have a properly-tuned bike otherwise (some sort of active fuel/timing management to suit your plumbing changes) then nobody can authoritatively say what happens going open-loop with any of the *IEDs. You are merely rolling the dice on top of rolling the dice.

Part two follows...
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:45 PM
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If you do have a properly-tuned bike otherwise (some sort of active fuel/timing management whatever your other parts) then you do not need these things.

Part three follows...
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:53 PM
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If you wish to maintain closed-loop control with your stock ECU (SERTed or not, so long as it is properly tuned) so the Adaptive Fueling can be left alone to properly do its thing, then you do not want any of these IEDs. They will screw with your Adaptive Fueling.

There, is that simple enough?
 
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Old 07-17-2008 | 12:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: LoMax

When I am not welcome in someones house, they don't have to tell me that several times.
If he wants me to keep quiet he should not ask me questions. Seems counterproductive to do so, no?
I also asked you countless times to start your own thread, the truth is you do whatever you please.
 


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