Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
#1971
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
I will let you all know my opinion as to the difference of tuner v. XIED.
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I think the codes tell you that the XIEDs \\;\\\\\\;are in fact working! \\;\\\\\\; I didn't worry about them either. \\;\\\\\\;
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Good for Cruiser. \\;\\\\\\; If this T-storm will move thru, that is what I am going to do,
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Mike
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(my bike is/was stock except for XIEDs and the heat shields.)
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I think the codes tell you that the XIEDs \\;\\\\\\;are in fact working! \\;\\\\\\; I didn't worry about them either. \\;\\\\\\;
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Good for Cruiser. \\;\\\\\\; If this T-storm will move thru, that is what I am going to do,
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Mike
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(my bike is/was stock except for XIEDs and the heat shields.)
#1972
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
Diebolt,
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I am in agreement with you. \\; The codes tell us that the bike is running lean, but we know that is not the case due to the results. \\; The ecm throws the code because thats what is is programmed to do when the 02 sensor \\;sends a signal that is lower than what it expects. \\; So, if your throwing codes for both cylinders your XIEDs are working. \\;
There may be a difference in the mapping between bikes. \\; It seems that baggers can handle the upgraded airkit, mufflers and XIEDs, but the Dynas still seem to run hot (lean) with that set up. \\; If I can get out today and try with my stock airbox I will post the differences. \\; Here are my results so far:
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D&\\;D Fat Cat 2-1, K&\\;N 3909, Xieds: \\; Once warmed up it ran like crap. \\; I thought way too lean.
D&\\;D Fat Cat 2-1, \\;stock airbox, XIEDs: \\; Ran real good.
Khromewerks slip ons, K&\\;N 3909, XIEDs: \\; \\;Ran great, \\;but alittle hot. \\; About 370 rear head temps using an IR thermometer just right of the spark plug. \\;
Kromewerks slip ons, stock airbox, XIEDs: \\; To be announced.
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Donny, As you can see \\;I \\;also like things running right which is why I've removed the PCIII. \\; Yes with a dyno tune it probably would have run good, but I like to change things up too much.
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I am in agreement with you. \\; The codes tell us that the bike is running lean, but we know that is not the case due to the results. \\; The ecm throws the code because thats what is is programmed to do when the 02 sensor \\;sends a signal that is lower than what it expects. \\; So, if your throwing codes for both cylinders your XIEDs are working. \\;
There may be a difference in the mapping between bikes. \\; It seems that baggers can handle the upgraded airkit, mufflers and XIEDs, but the Dynas still seem to run hot (lean) with that set up. \\; If I can get out today and try with my stock airbox I will post the differences. \\; Here are my results so far:
 \\;
D&\\;D Fat Cat 2-1, K&\\;N 3909, Xieds: \\; Once warmed up it ran like crap. \\; I thought way too lean.
D&\\;D Fat Cat 2-1, \\;stock airbox, XIEDs: \\; Ran real good.
Khromewerks slip ons, K&\\;N 3909, XIEDs: \\; \\;Ran great, \\;but alittle hot. \\; About 370 rear head temps using an IR thermometer just right of the spark plug. \\;
Kromewerks slip ons, stock airbox, XIEDs: \\; To be announced.
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Donny, As you can see \\;I \\;also like things running right which is why I've removed the PCIII. \\; Yes with a dyno tune it probably would have run good, but I like to change things up too much.
#1974
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
I just checked the first tank full on the XIED's. \\; I was getting approx 42-43 mpg prior to the XIED's. \\; MPG was 36.78 with city and some highway driving. \\; I'm going to check the next 2 tank full's for an average of 3 tanks of fuel. \\; The bike is definitly running stronger and cooler on both the egine, exhaust and oil temps. \\; So the XIED's are working as they are suppose to.
#1975
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
[quote]ORIGINAL: diebolt
What happened to Cruiser??????
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He's out enjoying his cool running bike like many of us here. I for one think that the XiED'S are well worth the money and I'm not worried about the codes that I get.
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Haven't been able to post because of forum glitch. \\; My Bike is still running good on XIED's.
What happened to Cruiser??????
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He's out enjoying his cool running bike like many of us here. I for one think that the XiED'S are well worth the money and I'm not worried about the codes that I get.
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Haven't been able to post because of forum glitch. \\; My Bike is still running good on XIED's.
#1976
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
I was disappointed in the heat after installing Xied's on an 07 1200R, still 350 rear, 370 front average, and getting the 131/151 codes. This was with stock A/C, Xied's, and SE slip-on's. However, after reading all the comments about exhaust leaks, I had to check for them, and found obvious leaks at both muffler/header junctions and since the exhaust flange nuts keep loosening up, probably getting leaks there half the time as well. I don't think the Torca clamps can possibly seal that muffler/header junction alone. Some sort of sealer would be required to do that.
Rather than fight that battle, I ordered V&\\;H Double Barrel's, replaced header gaskets with SE gaskets, new circlips, and new flange nuts. So now with stock A/C, Xied's, and V&\\;H Double Barrel's, things are, so far, looking much better. Temps of 300 rear, and 315 front average, and no codes after first 3 heat cycles. Fourth ride resulted in 131/151 codes reappearing. I haven't checked yet, but I suspect that \\;the evil flange nuts, even though new, have loosened again. That will be checked and corrected if true, this time with nuts that actually are locking nuts.
As a bonus, the Double Barrel's have added noticeable low and midrange power, have a great sound, much deeper and pleasing to the ear than the SE slip-on's, and just a bit louder. Gas mileage was 39-42mpg, now is 44-48mpg.
Rather than fight that battle, I ordered V&\\;H Double Barrel's, replaced header gaskets with SE gaskets, new circlips, and new flange nuts. So now with stock A/C, Xied's, and V&\\;H Double Barrel's, things are, so far, looking much better. Temps of 300 rear, and 315 front average, and no codes after first 3 heat cycles. Fourth ride resulted in 131/151 codes reappearing. I haven't checked yet, but I suspect that \\;the evil flange nuts, even though new, have loosened again. That will be checked and corrected if true, this time with nuts that actually are locking nuts.
As a bonus, the Double Barrel's have added noticeable low and midrange power, have a great sound, much deeper and pleasing to the ear than the SE slip-on's, and just a bit louder. Gas mileage was 39-42mpg, now is 44-48mpg.
#1977
#1978
RE: RE:IEDs, READ THIS!
I run the XIEDs and know they work well on my bike ,Stock A/C vented to ground, V&\\;H T D and Super Trap Slip ons, the problem I have is that I can not build any color on my plugs, light gray on ground stap with some flaky stuff on it. Oil temps stay at cruise 225* and engine heat is not bad, but how lean can we run these without running into some problems? \\;I have checked everything for leaks and I have none. I like the way the bike runs with these XIEDs and milage is good 2 up 70 mph getting 39 mpg. Just would like to see some more color on plugs, I believe its the TD that are doing this but do not want to give them up as it does help with heat on my thigh and OL leg. \\; Thanks Doc
#1980
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
I just put a set on yesterday, easy install. \\; I have not taken temp measurements, but seat of the pants, its cooler, does not ping during roll on accel and milage is unchanged. \\; I recommnend them to anyone wanting to beat the heat. \\;
PS it gets hot in Oklahoma.
PS it gets hot in Oklahoma.