To Be Frank:

That's the best answer I have ever received about a stage one download. I even understood everything you said. Nice job....

 

You aren't kidding! I looked at it wrong the first time. I originally thought it cost $185, but now I see the whole version to measure AFRs is $522. Ouch!

 

Cruiser, the analog (I'd actually prefer the analog over the digital)oil cap with temp gauge is listed in the harley catalog for $29. I didn't think that was too bad, unfortunately it doesn't look like it would fit the newer Dyna's (Makes me wonder if HD doesn't want us to know what the newer motor temps are?) But the infared sensor you mention would certainly havemore applications.

 

Cruiser, What type infrared thermometer do you us?

 

RJMAC:

If you want make and model, I can get that later. I bought it at an auto parts store for like $19.95. It's a plastic cased unit that has an lcd display. Theirs a trigger button on the front and a switch on the back to switch it back and forth between Celsius and Fahrenheit.

 

ive read another thread somewhere in here ,overwelming harley oil gauge caps are lots of trouble inacurate and ussually dont work at all after a short time

 

I installed the O2 IEDs today and went for a ride. First impression is that the bike runs about the same as it did with the O2 eliminators. Now this might be me looking for something and this is strictly seat of the pants, but at low cruise steady state the bike tended to "hunt". I don't recall it doing that as long as I hade the O2 eliminators installed.
When I got home and checked the oil temp it was 207 deg. The day before with the O2 eliminators the temp was 205 deg under similar riding conditions. Not enough difference to draw any conclusions.
I'll ride the bike this way for a while and check the mileage and then try the O2 eliminators again for a while and then I might be able to draw a conclusion.

 

Gundog,
I don't quite get what you are trying to do with "eliminators". Are you running a Power Commander and teh IED's? If you are I think there is some redundancy going on there and that is why you aren't experiencing what you are expecting. In addition I don't think 205 or 207 degrees is bad so I am confused...[sm=dontgetit.gif]

 

I've only heard of problems with the digital ones. Haven't heard of any problems with the analog ones. I've had the same analog one for 5 years and it's spot on according to my infrared thermometer.

 

Tick Tock I would take 205 anyday of the week. That's cool.

I read somewhere that when you elimnate the O2 sensors that the default AFR is like 12.5. Don't quote me on that.