Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
#1071
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
Fastbagger,
The "V" stands for variable. Which means it is adjustable to a wide band of adjustments. The XIED is set at one setting to deliver an AFR of 13.8. The VIED has like a rheostat switch which allows you to adjust the AFR. Since Steve said he put a little more at each end I would specualte and say you could adjust it from a setting of 14.4 all the way down to 13.6, depending on your needs.
The "V" stands for variable. Which means it is adjustable to a wide band of adjustments. The XIED is set at one setting to deliver an AFR of 13.8. The VIED has like a rheostat switch which allows you to adjust the AFR. Since Steve said he put a little more at each end I would specualte and say you could adjust it from a setting of 14.4 all the way down to 13.6, depending on your needs.
#1072
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
I just emailed Steve and got a responce. Here is what Steve emailed me.
The ViED is adjustable for TC engines from approx. 14.4 to 13.6:1 AFR.
The ViED's have a small pot in the center of them that you adjust with a
small screwdriver. Just work up the dial until your engine starts throwing
transient 131/151 codes, then back off .5 to 1 tick mark
The ViED is adjustable for TC engines from approx. 14.4 to 13.6:1 AFR.
The ViED's have a small pot in the center of them that you adjust with a
small screwdriver. Just work up the dial until your engine starts throwing
transient 131/151 codes, then back off .5 to 1 tick mark
#1074
Let's help Steve
Steve has helped us all tremendously making our Bikes run the way they should have run when we first picked them up. I think it is not asking to much to return the favor to Steve and to help him get the word out about his products.
You know it was not too long ago that I was floundering around on the HD websites falling into the pitfalls that others are still falling into. Buying products and services they don't need and wasting a lot of time and money. I could almost cry when I think of all the money I have wasted.
The IED's litterally turned my life around, and the XIED's were the icing on the cake. I am so Happy now everytime I ride my Bike. It is such a joy.
Let's spread the word around on some of the other forums. Of course only if you believe in the product and feel as strongly as I do. Let's share the greatest little secret on the Net with our Brother Riders.
I have started another thread on another forum. Jump on over and share your positive experience with your IED/XIED or both. Let's get the word out and help our Brothers and Steve who surely deserves it.
Here's the link: http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...ead.php?t=1951
Thank you all,
Dave
You know it was not too long ago that I was floundering around on the HD websites falling into the pitfalls that others are still falling into. Buying products and services they don't need and wasting a lot of time and money. I could almost cry when I think of all the money I have wasted.
The IED's litterally turned my life around, and the XIED's were the icing on the cake. I am so Happy now everytime I ride my Bike. It is such a joy.
Let's spread the word around on some of the other forums. Of course only if you believe in the product and feel as strongly as I do. Let's share the greatest little secret on the Net with our Brother Riders.
I have started another thread on another forum. Jump on over and share your positive experience with your IED/XIED or both. Let's get the word out and help our Brothers and Steve who surely deserves it.
Here's the link: http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...ead.php?t=1951
Thank you all,
Dave
#1076
#1077
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
cruiser 85257
Regarding the link: All I can say is "AMEN"! Based on the current thread you and a lot of other members have already done a lot of good to the community.
Thanks for starting it. Regarding the search for a good fuel management system, I echo the same story.
As soon as I evaluate the XIED I will contribute feedback.
Regarding the link: All I can say is "AMEN"! Based on the current thread you and a lot of other members have already done a lot of good to the community.
Thanks for starting it. Regarding the search for a good fuel management system, I echo the same story.
As soon as I evaluate the XIED I will contribute feedback.
#1079
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
cruiser85257 - in your 1st post to this thread, you mentioned ...save yourself $150 plus labor for the dealers stage one and do the O2 IED instead.
Trying to make sense out of the whole enchilada here, does the dealer stage I download simply modify the AFR, or is there something else this download does? If I were to install the IED or XIED, with the stage I A/C, and Rush 1.75 baffled slip-ons, would there be any need, in your opinion, to have any other type of fuel manager? In other words, from what I understand from your thread, the IEDs add resistance to the O2 sensors, which in turn give a modified signal to the ECM, which in turn changes the AFR, so what exactly does the stage I download do different from this? You seem pretty well-read on all this, and I appreciate your input. Thanks. Steve might have another fan headed his way. I'm not to keen on taking my bike down to the dealer for something I can do myself. Thanks in advance.
Watie
Trying to make sense out of the whole enchilada here, does the dealer stage I download simply modify the AFR, or is there something else this download does? If I were to install the IED or XIED, with the stage I A/C, and Rush 1.75 baffled slip-ons, would there be any need, in your opinion, to have any other type of fuel manager? In other words, from what I understand from your thread, the IEDs add resistance to the O2 sensors, which in turn give a modified signal to the ECM, which in turn changes the AFR, so what exactly does the stage I download do different from this? You seem pretty well-read on all this, and I appreciate your input. Thanks. Steve might have another fan headed his way. I'm not to keen on taking my bike down to the dealer for something I can do myself. Thanks in advance.
Watie
#1080
RE: Nightrider O2 IED's - Field Test
Lonewatie,
You have asked a question that I have searched for an answer that I just don't think anyone knows for sure. I have five dealers in my area, and not any two people that work there could answer that question the same way. The most popular response was it raises your rev limiter. I've heard it changes the timing. But changing the AFR was not on the list. The EPA would never stand for it.
What I have come to learn during this journey is that our Delphi EFI system is a good system. It's only short coming is the closed loop map from the MoCo. This because of EPA standards having to be met. Steve learned this early on and didn't see a need for a complete system. All the system needed was a richer closed loop. His first attempt were the IED's, which was a total success. It's amazing what .5 richer AFR can do. We have over 20 pages now of owners all in agreement as to the positive changes from the IED's. Then Steve dropped the Bomb on us with his XIED's. I like to call them IED's on Steroids. Truely amazing what an AFR of 13.8 can do for these 96 ci engines.
We all had dreams of how are Bikes would run when we walked into the dealers and saw them sitting there. Dreams that became nightmares when the engine litterally cooked your legs from the heat. Engines surging because they are too lean. Then my nightmare continued with money thrown out the window chasing the elusive dream. Then Steve came along and for under a $100 my original dream was realized. The XIED's have only made it better. I love riding my Bike now. In every aspect it is a Joy to ride.
Save your $200 for a trip to the Dealer for a download that nobody can definitely say what it does. When for $109 you can install in minutes the XIED's which Steve will openly discuss with you and be totally honest about. They will work great with your combination of Rush slip ons with 1.75" baffles and an air kit. You won't need any other fuel mngt program. In fact I am now running the 2" baffles with Rush slip ons and the K&Nair kit. My Bike is running great. I'm done as far as engine mods go. The Bike runs consistently good. It's smoother, throttle response is quicker, acceleration is awesome.
Best Bang For The Buck$$$$. XIED.
PS. I love the Movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
You have asked a question that I have searched for an answer that I just don't think anyone knows for sure. I have five dealers in my area, and not any two people that work there could answer that question the same way. The most popular response was it raises your rev limiter. I've heard it changes the timing. But changing the AFR was not on the list. The EPA would never stand for it.
What I have come to learn during this journey is that our Delphi EFI system is a good system. It's only short coming is the closed loop map from the MoCo. This because of EPA standards having to be met. Steve learned this early on and didn't see a need for a complete system. All the system needed was a richer closed loop. His first attempt were the IED's, which was a total success. It's amazing what .5 richer AFR can do. We have over 20 pages now of owners all in agreement as to the positive changes from the IED's. Then Steve dropped the Bomb on us with his XIED's. I like to call them IED's on Steroids. Truely amazing what an AFR of 13.8 can do for these 96 ci engines.
We all had dreams of how are Bikes would run when we walked into the dealers and saw them sitting there. Dreams that became nightmares when the engine litterally cooked your legs from the heat. Engines surging because they are too lean. Then my nightmare continued with money thrown out the window chasing the elusive dream. Then Steve came along and for under a $100 my original dream was realized. The XIED's have only made it better. I love riding my Bike now. In every aspect it is a Joy to ride.
Save your $200 for a trip to the Dealer for a download that nobody can definitely say what it does. When for $109 you can install in minutes the XIED's which Steve will openly discuss with you and be totally honest about. They will work great with your combination of Rush slip ons with 1.75" baffles and an air kit. You won't need any other fuel mngt program. In fact I am now running the 2" baffles with Rush slip ons and the K&Nair kit. My Bike is running great. I'm done as far as engine mods go. The Bike runs consistently good. It's smoother, throttle response is quicker, acceleration is awesome.
Best Bang For The Buck$$$$. XIED.
PS. I love the Movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales".