The only downside to the TMAX is that it doesn't make fueling use of the MAP sensor. I believe it does use it, but only for timing. The other replacement engine control system, DTT, acts similarly.

Best of all worlds would be wide-band sensors with closed loop everywhere and Mass Air Flow measurement. Maybe some time in the next few years...

 

What about installing the WBO2's? does the wiring follow the stock wiring locations?

 

The TMAT has it's own connections to the WBO2's. The stock ones are plugged and the new O2's wiring is run back to the connections on the TMAT, though they do run a bit different route than the stock wiring. Download the manual from thunder-max.com and they show examples for each style of bike.

 

See i tried doing that and i cannot find the install instructions... well i can find "add autotune to your thundermax" but it doesnt show wire routing.

Maybe im looking in the wrong place?


NM i found it!

 

The TMAX does not use MAP for timing. The DTT does.

 

Thank you. I like to give correct info so I appreciate getting it.

 

Is the auto-tune still a separate module or have they incorperated it into one package? Looking on the site it shows the ecm with the o2 sensors, but also shows the separate auto-tuner with them.
Ron

 

My T-Max with Auto Tune came as an integrated unit, but the Auto Tune is still available as a separate module for those that wish to add it to an existing T-Max.

Arcane

 

Thanks, that clears up my confusion.
Ron

 

I'm supposed to receive my Tmax w/autotune this eve when I get home. I talked w/ tech at Zippers here in Maryland about adding Tmax to my 07 Ultra and was sold after talking with them. I also contacted Shooter64 here on the forum since I heard that he sells for at least $200 less than Zippers(who is in with Thundermax) as seller/manufacturer. Zippers tech agreed that others sell less than them and that they still are the ones to warrant it if it fails or if I experience probs with it. Shooter64 did price it to my door for just over $200 less. He also indicated that if I wasn't happy with it to return it to him for a refund, but he didn't see that happening since my bike would run cooler and also the way it should. I also got a set of Rush slipons(not sure of baffle size yet) that were used one season off of Ebay. Hope to install this weekend and have a New new ride with some rumble