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Old 07-13-2024, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
These ECMs were capable of Wide Band sensors is using special engineering software, but in the wild they are all narrow band.
Yes I've heard that. Could even adjust without stopping to flash a map, allowing to quickly build the calibrations.
 
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
2006 US Domestic Dyna came with and without narrow band O2 sensors. 2006 Dyna did not have adaptive fuel. Adaptive fuel was turned on in 07 and later.

05A and later ECMs are O2 capable. 05A is actually an 06 ECM before the PN revved. These ECMs were capable of Wide Band sensors is using special engineering software, but in the wild they are all narrow band.
Sounds like my ECM is stone age. Still, Dynojet claim that although the Adaptive Control Switch is not present in tune software levels below 357, the Adaptive Control is activated by setting the temperature thresholds. However, this has not worked for me and I have no AFF activity in the data-log. But I have CLI activity, and I am ready to settle with that. When accelerating I have seen the CLI:s going up to about 110 % and felt the bike pull stronger.

P. S. Dynojet are really doing their best in their mail support, but if it is as you say that my ECM has no Adaptive Fuel capability, their efforts are of course in vain. Still they have not given up though. By the way, they say my ECM is type 14. Are there different upgrades of type 14, you mean?

Also, when you say Adaptive Fuel was turned on 2007, do you mean this happened through a change in hardware or software?

Thanks a lot.
 

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Old 07-15-2024, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by OakMountainRider
Sounds like my ECM is stone age. Still, Dynojet claim that although the Adaptive Control Switch is not present in tune software levels below 357, the Adaptive Control is activated by setting the temperature thresholds. However, this has not worked for me and I have no AFF activity in the data-log. But I have CLI activity, and I am ready to settle with that. When accelerating I have seen the CLI:s going up to about 110 % and felt the bike pull stronger.

P. S. Dynojet are really doing their best in their mail support, but if it is as you say that my ECM has no Adaptive Fuel capability, their efforts are of course in vain. Still they have not given up though. By the way, they say my ECM is type 14. Are there different upgrades of type 14, you mean?

Also, when you say Adaptive Fuel was turned on 2007, do you mean this happened through a change in hardware or software?

Thanks a lot.
Type 14 means nothing other than a number DJ assigned to it. To put it as plain and simple as possible Adaptive Fuel Control does not work when using Wide Band Sensors in any model year to date from HD, period. It is not a support operation of any of HD's software. It is not and ECM hardware issue. If DJ shows it to you in any model year software as an option for Wide Band operation they are wrong.
 
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@OakMountainRider Adaptive control is overrated. I have had it disabled for years. If you have CLI working, just get your tune as dialed in as possible for your location and just let CLI do the day to day fine tuning. AFF is completely unnecessary and in my opinion, brings with it negatives, such as adjusting fuel in areas that you specifically set to be in open loop. I believe CLI can correct + or - 25% which is a huge range. You don't need AFF.
 
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