Just got everything to do a cam swap on my 13 sg. New billet camplate, race oil pump,cams,lifters,pushrods,rocker lockers etc. Now I need to buy a tuner but wondering if I should get the pv3 or pv1. Seems the pv3 has built in target tune iirc? Should I get a target tune kit or autotune since I don't really trust anyone close to dyno tune my bike. Have the .574 rocket cams which are almost identical to s&s cams, 2-1 sharkroad, heavy breather. Never have I done anything like what I'm about to do lol. Race cars easy **** building a 4k hp blown alky engine but never have tinkered with a twin cam engine much. Any help would be greatly appreciated just want it to run better than stock lol.

 

Contact Fuel Moto and tell them your story, they will guide you down the right path and customer service is the best...

 

dyno tune is extremely overrated/overused. Ever dyno your car after mods? I didn’t. No one I knew did. Get what you prefer/can afford, run the auto tune, and just ride!

 

Not many dynos can handle almost instant 4k hp lol. You gotta remember we launch around 6-7k rpm and 0-100mph goes by in less than 1 second. Anyways I'm not looking for max power I just want it to run good without fear of melting it down from being too lean or milking the oil etc from being too rich if that makes sense.

 

I've been emailing iirc Ron at fuel moto and he is telling me they won't have a map for my specific cams since they're rocket brand .574 but I've noticed they're very close to s&s .574 cams as far as valve or timing events go. I told him they aren't the easy start cams as well. Is the target tube worth getting or autotune even though the autotune is never always perfect anyways from what I've been hearing. Even a dyno tune is night/day different from real world riding/racing.

 

And would like you figure out if I need the autotune or Target Tune kit to make it all work out easier and faster. Still has the factory Delphi ecm with a sepst the old orange box but can't find a tune for the cams etc in their software. So going to buy the pv1b. Any help would be appreciated and it was Bob at Fuel moto who I've been emailing back and forth

 

PEASE don’t waste another ~$700 just to replace one perfectly capable tuner for another.
You just need to find a tuner who knows and tunes with the SE tuning tuning software.
Just hate to see folks thinking if they change the tuning device they will have a better tuned/running bike using a suggested/canned map from a supplier. All anyone can supply is a map that will make the bike run well enough to get it to a qualified tuner…unless it is exactly the same build INCLUDING the same exhaust system. There are no 2 bikes that will require the exact same fueling due to all the variables built into any build, even stock.
Save your money and find a good tuner to get your bike to run at its best.
Bob

 

Well Chris rivas has a tune for the pv on his site with pretty much the same mods as mine. With the sepst aka orange box I'd have to lug a laptop around with me all the time if I ever needed to change anything unlike with the pv. I do go over to the smoky mountains 3 or 4 times a year and a tune that worked fantastic here at my elevation runs like **** over there lol. I notice decreases in power, Fuel mileage and other things. Plus it seems as the local hd shop is the only ones who would use the sepst and I don't think they even care about the tc engines anymore since 98% of their builds for the past few years have been m8 engines. I think I'd be much better off in the long run with a pv but I'm not a computer guru so to speak though I can change stuff in my racepak on the funnycars really easy. And know how to read a graph. I was only curious if target tune or autotune pro was worth the extra $516. My pipe has both 12 and 18mm bungs and ATM I'm only using the 12mm bungs for the factory nb o2 sensors. I'm guessing I can leave those in and remove the plugs and install the 18mm wb 02 sensors.

 

S&S doesn't make a 574 cam. Why not go with a more popular cam that you find maps for? Of course it.will still fall short of a dyno tune .
That orange SE PRO Super Tuner is more than capable.

 

it's very close to the .570 cams.