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Old 08-04-2022, 07:30 PM
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Default Spark, fuel, cranks, will not start

Bike turns over. Plugs are wet, put gas in one cylinder, Once in awhile backfires. Loading up with gas? Spark present

Borrowed a coil. Bike is dual fire.
Replaced CPK
Inline sprak plug test shows spark. When I did it to atmosphere spark was yellow and lazy, not blue.

Will not even pop, just cranks and cranks. I would think fiuel, spark and cranking would at least try,

400 miles on complete rebuild was running when I came home CV44 rebuild kit. New plugs. Tried spare ignition module, but it has been riding in saddle bags since 2011. Tried another battery. Havn't check MAP. Not sure what it even does. Gear drive cams

Electric manual says if you got spark then it is fuel. Is spraying gas when twisting throttle, and butterfly opens. Igntion module?

2001 FLHR, carb, stock igntion, rebullt CV44 400 miles ago, fresh plugs, tried different coil, battery, repalced CPK. No codes. Compression 178 WOT.

Month before had trouble starting. Couple time seemed slow to start, I thought maybe plugs. But I replace plugs. Little dark. Fresh gas. No cam sensor.

87k miles, factory ignition. Any ideas? Manual doesn't have anything to test ignition module, other than asking for spark.

Timing off/ bad ignitiom module???
 

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Stopped sparking. 11 volts on b at the coil. Little low on other end of harness. Thinking bad connection or wire. I don't think ground cause reading at battery.
 
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How about compression?
 
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. Compression 178 WOT.

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I don't think that is it, Takes 3-4 pump ups to max out.
 
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Is the rotor and pickup in good shape?
 
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Is your battery good? Fully charged and load tested, proven good?
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Originally Posted by WS6_Keith
Is the rotor and pickup in good shape?
New stator. but with 400 miles, you never know.

I don't think it is charging system issue, because I put charger on few times during trouble shooting. Also don't think charging system would effect starting. You can start and run quite awhile if you forget to plug stator in, with a carbed bike.
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Is your battery good? Fully charged and load tested, proven good?
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Swapped it with a one year old, and tried it with charger and and jump pack. Battery is 6 yeas old. Left it in the other bike, which fires up great with it.


Now that the spark has actually stopped, I think it will be easier to trouble shoot hopefully.
 
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How old is the crank position sensor?
 
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Replaced CPK
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Few days.
 
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12.5 volts when I split 8 conncector for main harness. But 11.86 at data link and B at coil. My theory is the low voltage at other end is issue. Orginally it was sparking, but not sold blue snapping arc, but yellow big arc.

Manual is written for mechnaics, It says if arc, then check fuel. Maybe skill of trade to know, if color is poor, low votage. Manual also says to plug their box in, which may have told me this.

Low voltage is not as easy broken wire. Maybe corrossion or loose. Doesn't look dirty, what I can see. need to inspect femal that I cannot see,
 


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