logs keep showing those 'retarded' events... documentation says it should reduce itself at every key-on but I don't think that is happening.
is there a way to force a 'reset' of this thing?

 

It means it's hit and miss because it's never worked right so it's only available to a select few to "hit and miss" with. That's why y'all need to get base maps from FM and send them back to get corrected if this setting is wrong. A dead give away it's wrong is if your MAP is 40+ kPa or higher at idle. You'll never get a good tune if this is the case and FM has to fix it. You can't.
So see, FMs great tech support and base maps for PV is out of necessity.
With TTS Mastertune this is part of the Cam Tune process.
Only stands to reason someone who was key in developing something would know best how it works and how best to tune it. Unless you're dyno tuning, TTS Mastertune will get you the next best tune doing it yourself using smart tune, v tune, whatever the case may be. Nothing is Auto Tuned and that term itself is deceiving if you ask me.
Now with the new M8s with the new ECM well...just one more reason I'd never own one. The who!e point is to make it hard to tune in the first place or change how the EPA wants it to run. No thanks. And yep, it's only going to get worse thanks to he EPA and treehuggers inc. Remember that next time y'all vote for someone like Biden.

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Have you tried reloading the calibration?

 

It works by changing when the map sensor polls. Changing the IVO setting will change this. Problem comes in because there is no direction or good understand or tools to help. There is a cam cruncher feature but all this is is estimator that goes off a cam card reading at a certain lift and not actual opening and closing events.

This can also be seen by using TTS's cam estimator and getting one setting for IVO and then using his tools in Data Master and getting another IVO setting.

 

mmm, ok, but the latest WinPV does now reveal the IVO/IVC so anyone can change it now. Whether you know what you are doing or not is a different story, but as you say "autotune" is nothing of the sort ...and there is sort of a way to sort of adapt the master tune method to sort of get to the right IVO. Me n Frederic came up with something back in 2017 for the TC ...it worked just as well when I did my M8
...and Mr Wizards blip test also works

 

I'm using the IVO/IVC from my original map (20/38 which HAS to be right as the engine is stock) and my idle KPa reading is 25-ish so I guess its all good.

the map FM sent me is software level 823 (and my stock map was/is 824, so instead of flashing it I copied/adapted tables from 823 to 824).

823 map does not show IVO/IVC

 

multiple times... and 'reset adaptive' on all of them, but I guess that only resets fuel tables.

 

The adaptive spark system is NOT corrected each time the key is turned off. It also has no reset function built into it, so you have to wait it out, as it learns. If you have excessive Knock events happening it going to be a long wait, so getting the timing so there are none, is the best thing to speed it up.

 

ok might have learned something new today.
if you activate 'advanced signals' on the PV, it will reveal 2 interesting ones : KnockCountF and KnockCountR
went for a ride today datalogging those, they never registered anything (which kinda matches the 'seat of pants' - never felt any pinging, in fact the map was too retarded and felt 'lazy' at WOT).
put it back to stock-ish advance maps and will try again soon if I can catch a break from this darn rain.

cheers.

 

Yea, FM didn't have an 824 map when I was looking for one either and the 823 they offered wasn't remotely close.

Have a look at this thread
I suspect there is something very wrong with the 824 softail software because like you, and others, this "knock" stuff just doesn't go away no matter what you do.

I would love to know if 2deuceguy is onto something here, and if you can put the 921 software from a touring into a softail.
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