Sert or PC3
#1
07-12-2007, 09:11 PM
Sert or PC3
With it being understood that installing a sert or pc3 could void parts of your warranty. Also, being understood that it is kinda up to dealer and if you allow them to install either they will be more likely to honor warranty. My question is, since either can be bought online at a saving versus buying from dealer, is there anyway for the dealer to detect that either has been used to tune bike if bike is returned to stock condition before returning to dealer for warranty work.
nafarmboy
nafarmboy
#3
07-13-2007, 10:34 PM
#4
07-15-2007, 09:22 PM
RE: Sert or PC3
The SERT manual states:
Disclaimer & Warnings
If SERT has been installed it should be easy to see changes to the ECM from the original settings. If you saved the original ECM setting prior to SERT flashing you could always load those setting back on, but thats a pretty slippery slope and you'd prolly get your bike tossed back at you once they figured out what had been done.
I've got SERT installed and i had the dealer do it... I think you're right about dealers honouring claimsgiven the technical nature of the tuner you have the power to alter so many variables and in inexperienced hands that could mean damage is done inadvertently. Hourouring a claim could largly depend on what damage was done and cost to repair.Lots of guys have opted to tune SERT themselves to save a few bucks... it does carry more risk than having the dealer so it - but thats life, take the level of risk you are comfortable with (or can afford).
Disclaimer & Warnings
Do not install the EFI Tuner on any model other than those specified in this User’s Manual. Doing so may result in poor engine performance, electrical-system damage, and/or engine damage. This Screamin' Eagle EFI Tuner system is intended for high-performance applications only. This engine-related performance part is not legal for use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles. Use of this Screamin' Eagle EFI Tuner system may reduce or void the Limited Warranty Coverage. This Screamin' Eagle EFI Tuner system allows the engine to reach optimum RPM. It is extremely important that the rider use the tachometer to avoid harmful RPM's and possible engine damage. Engine-related Performance Parts are intended for the experienced rider only.
Do not exceed 6200 RPM on all Twin Cam96 engines that use stock valve springs. Exceeding 6200 RPM on these vehicles may cause engine damage.
Do not exceed 6200 RPM on balanced Twin Cam B96 engines, regardless of additional engine modifications. Exceeding 6200 RPM on these vehicles may cause engine damage If SERT has been installed it should be easy to see changes to the ECM from the original settings. If you saved the original ECM setting prior to SERT flashing you could always load those setting back on, but thats a pretty slippery slope and you'd prolly get your bike tossed back at you once they figured out what had been done.
I've got SERT installed and i had the dealer do it... I think you're right about dealers honouring claimsgiven the technical nature of the tuner you have the power to alter so many variables and in inexperienced hands that could mean damage is done inadvertently. Hourouring a claim could largly depend on what damage was done and cost to repair.Lots of guys have opted to tune SERT themselves to save a few bucks... it does carry more risk than having the dealer so it - but thats life, take the level of risk you are comfortable with (or can afford).
#6
07-15-2007, 10:12 PM
RE: Sert or PC3
I realize that the dealer would be able to see that the ecm had been changed but my question was , suppose they installed a stage one download and I saved it before using the sert and then reinstalled the stage one download, would the dealer be able to tell it was reinstalled by me or would it seem as it was the same download they installed? In other words does the sert leave trace of its presence in the ecm? I would merely like to experiment with some of the other downloads and not worry about the dealer using the sert as an out if I need warranty later.
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07-15-2007, 10:17 PM
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RE: Sert or PC3
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I realize that the dealer would be able to see that the ecm had been changed but my question was , suppose they installed a stage one download and I saved it before using the sert and then reinstalled the stage one download, would the dealer be able to tell it was reinstalled by me or would it seem as it was the same download they installed? In other words does the sert leave trace of its presence in the ecm? I would merely like to experiment with some of the other downloads and not worry about the dealer using the sert as an out if I need warranty later.
nafarmboy
I realize that the dealer would be able to see that the ecm had been changed but my question was , suppose they installed a stage one download and I saved it before using the sert and then reinstalled the stage one download, would the dealer be able to tell it was reinstalled by me or would it seem as it was the same download they installed? In other words does the sert leave trace of its presence in the ecm? I would merely like to experiment with some of the other downloads and not worry about the dealer using the sert as an out if I need warranty later.
nafarmboy
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07-15-2007, 10:33 PM
#9
07-16-2007, 04:55 PM
RE: Sert or PC3
My dealer is really cool about it. Doesn't matter if you do it yourself or they do it for you. About 3 weeks after purchasing my bike I asked him if the upgrades were going to void the warranty. His reply was simply "Hell no....Harley's were expected to be customized....as long as your using OEM parts or better, there aren't any problems"
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