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Does installing an "autotune pro" module, with wide band o2 sensors, on a pre-o2 sensor ECM (05 ultra classic), now make that bike capable of utilizing the o2 sensors when the bike is not in "autotune" mode?

will the bike collect/adjust AFR's utilizing the wide band sensors during normal operation?

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The bike will be getting a professional tune.

im just asking if once that tune is flashed to the ECM, will having auto tune pro allow the bike to read/adjust to The MAPs AFR specs by utilizing the o2 sensors?
 
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The short answer is no it will not. If your to permanently install sensors in your exhaust there is a mod to make your ecm use the narrow band sensors. I don't know if there is a Target Tune set up that would allow full time windband use, but in all bonesth if you get the bike properly tuned there would be no need for constant wide band use o. The average stock or mild buildm
 
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[QUOTE=marcodarq;17431651]The short answer is no it will not. If your to permanently install sensors in your exhaust there is a mod to make your ecm use the narrow band sensors. I don't know if there is a Target Tune set up that would allow full time windband use, but in all bonesth if you get the bike properly tuned there would be no need for constant wide band use o. The average stock or mild buildm[/

Wide band sensors will be permanently installed. So is there an ECM mod to utilize them in normal operation?
 
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The short answer is no it will not. If your to permanently install sensors in your exhaust there is a mod to make your ecm use the narrow band sensors. I don't know if there is a Target Tune set up that would allow full time windband use, but in all bonesth if you get the bike properly tuned there would be no need for constant wide band use o. The average stock or mild buildm[/

Wide band sensors will be permanently installed. So is there an ECM mod to utilize them in normal operation?
Not that I'm aware of, but it is possible to add the standard narrow band sensors to an 05. You have to tap into the ECM harness.
 
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Unless you are building some very unconvential or off the wallstreet build, there is realy no benifit to having full time wideband sensor operation. Check with DynoJet and see if the Target Tune system will work withthe youryear and model.
once you have the bike properly/professionally tuned, there is no real advantage to usuing a full time wideband set up. If the VE tables are correctly structured by your tuner, the narrow band sensors willwork just fine.
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Originally Posted by 838
Does installing an "autotune pro" module, with wide band o2 sensors, on a pre-o2 sensor ECM (05 ultra classic), now make that bike capable of utilizing the o2 sensors when the bike is not in "autotune" mode?

will the bike collect/adjust AFR's utilizing the wide band sensors during normal operation?

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Auto Tune Pro is designed for generating tune corrections in open loop, it is not closed loop capable.
 
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Auto Tune Pro is designed for generating tune corrections in open loop, it is not closed loop capable.
Thanks. I sent you guys a map request for this 05 (95" w/ Andrews 26's) and you guys sent me the closest thing you had (based on your 98" build).

could I run auto tune pro on this map until the bike gets on the dyno? Would it be ok to use this on a fresh build?
 
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Originally Posted by marcodarq
Unless you are building some very unconvential or off the wallstreet build, there is realy no benifit to having full time wideband sensor operation. Check with DynoJet and see if the Target Tune system will work withthe youryear and model.
once you have the bike properly/professionally tuned, there is no real advantage to usuing a full time wideband set up. If the VE tables are correctly structured by your tuner, the narrow band sensors willwork just fine.
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bike is an 05. It did not come with o2 sensors.
 
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if you want to run a system with widebands on it, running full time, look into the Thundermax ECM, that is how that system works.
you are overthinking this whole thing, your build is not all that crazy,,,use a PV and get it tuned and leave it be, don't buy into the hype about sensors and systems if you do not have a very complete and working knowledge of how they work and what they do, your bike can be dialed in very well and easily by any accomplished tuner and you will have a good running bike.
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