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Old 03-01-2016, 07:17 AM
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Like the title says. I want to monitor the actual AFR. I see on the list of gauges there is set AFR. I am assuming that tells me the AFR that is set in the AFR tables. Then I see WBO2. I assume that is wide band o2. I am running narrow band o2 sensors. When I select WBO2 it reads anywhere from 10.5 to 12.0. I am going to assume again the reason it is lower then what I have set is because of the VE tables. Am I understanding this correctly or since I am running narrow band sensors WBO2 is not reading right? Thanks!
 
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Don't think you can monitor AFR with Narrow Band O2. Look at 1:38 in this video
http://blogs.dynojet.com/index.php/2...n-gauge-setup/
 
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You have to have wide band sensors to monitor AFR.
 
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The powervision will monitor with either. I monitor my afr with both my narrow band and wide band O2 sensors.
 
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Hello there!

I have a 2007 V-ROD (VRSCX) with no O2 sensors. How can I monitor the AFR? All HD bikes previous to 2008 were lacking the O2 sensors.

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Have to install a aftermarket system and install O2 sensors in exhaust.
 
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Have to install a aftermarket system and install O2 sensors in exhaust.
You can buy "bungs" and weld them in the original system, then install the O2 Sensors and go from there
 
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Originally Posted by Big Money
The powervision will monitor with either. I monitor my afr with both my narrow band and wide band O2 sensors.
Not sure how accurate with narrow band sensors. I have my cruise range set to 14.6. The power vision gauge says 11.9. Not sure if my o2 sensors are bad are the power vision is not reading it right since it is narrow band sensors. Have not been able to get a answer.
 
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You cannot read live AFR with the factory O2 sensors, narrowband O2 sensors do not report air/fuel they report 0-1 volts. Also note various ECM's and tune strategies use different voltage offsets.
 
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So when choosing a map for a particular bike, one shouldn't just download a similar build, but similar year and model so the strategies ( aka software levels ) are compatible?

Is there some kind of list that lets you know what is compatible, or is that just from experience?
 


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