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Old 02-27-2015, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan42
So, lets sum this all up. Basically, anything BUT a dyno tune is useless and not worth the money?


So, if I don't care if it runs the absolute best it can and I don't care if I squeeze every ounce of power out of it I would still want to dyno it instead of a canned tune?
It's your money do what you want. You asked advice and got it. There are plenty of people running canned maps that are satified, if you go that route good luck to you. I would at the minimum recommend getting the air fuel verified but what do I know.
 
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One thing to consider is we ONLY know what we have.
What we have is the BEST we know.
Until a rider rides a well tuned bike...stock or high performance...it seems like just a bunch of money spent for the last couple hp/tq.
Couldn't be further from the facts. No 2 bikes run the same with the same calibration. Why?
Because:
No 2 injectors put out the same exact amount of fuel.
No 2 cylinder heads flow the exact same air.
No 2 cams have the exact same timing events.
No 2 exhaust systems provide the exact same flow.
No 2 intake systems flow the exact same airflow.
The above will be argued against if a shop (HD or Indy) doesn't dyno tune.
So tuning EVERYWHERE else than WOT is the real difference. Smoothness, throttle response, decel backfiring, and fuel economy is where riders feel the differences between a properly calibrated bike vs a canned map.
All one needs to do is talk with a rider who had his bike tuned properly...they will sell the work for the tuner.
Bob
 

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Old 02-28-2015, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FLTRI17
One thing to consider is we ONLY know what we have.
What we have is the BEST we know.
Until a rider rides a well tuned bike...stock or high performance...it seems like just a bunch of money spent for the last couple hp/tq.
Couldn't be further from the facts. No 2 bikes run the same with the same calibration. Why?
Because:
No 2 injectors put out the same exact amount of fuel.
No 2 cylinder heads flow the exact same air.
No 2 cams have the exact same timing events.
No 2 exhaust systems provide the exact same flow.
No 2 intake systems flow the exact same airflow.
The above will be argued against if a shop (HD or Indy) doesn't dyno tune.
So tuning EVERYWHERE else than WOT is the real difference. Smoothness, throttle response, decel backfiring, and fuel economy is where riders feel the differences between a properly calibrated bike vs a canned map.
A one needs to do is talk with a rider who had his bike tuned properly...they will sell the work for the tuner.
Bob
Well said Bob, this is one of the best explanations i've read yet.
 
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Old 02-28-2015, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FLTRI17
One thing to consider is we ONLY know what we have.
What we have is the BEST we know.
Until a rider rides a well tuned bike...stock or high performance...it seems like just a bunch of money spent for the last couple hp/tq.
Couldn't be further from the facts. No 2 bikes run the same with the same calibration. Why?
Because:
No 2 injectors put out the same exact amount of fuel.
No 2 cylinder heads flow the exact same air.
No 2 cams have the exact same timing events.
No 2 exhaust systems provide the exact same flow.
No 2 intake systems flow the exact same airflow.
The above will be argued against if a shop (HD or Indy) doesn't dyno tune.
So tuning EVERYWHERE else than WOT is the real difference. Smoothness, throttle response, decel backfiring, and fuel economy is where riders feel the differences between a properly calibrated bike vs a canned map.
A one needs to do is talk with a rider who had his bike tuned properly...they will sell the work for the tuner.
Bob



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