Lemon Law Protection
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05-20-2009 | 12:30 PM
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Lemon Law Protection
There has been some discussion regarding Lemon Laws on another thread, in an effort not hi-jack that thread with a lengthily discussion on various state lemon laws I have started this separate thread.
Each state has its own Lemon Law and I suggest that each of you research your respective State Lemon Law to determine if a motorcycle qualifies as a vehicle covered in your state Lemon Law.
Additionally, each state has a prescribed Time Period for Filing Claims, Reasonable Number of Attempts to Repair, Problems Covered, Notice and Opportunity to Repair, Dispute Resolution, etc. If you think that you may avail yourself of the Lemon Law remedy; I suggest that you familiarize yourself with your responsibilities under your state Lemon Law.
I have researched the Arizona Lemon Law and under VEHICLES COVERED Arizona Rev. Stat. section 44-1261 states:
The Arizona lemon law covers motor vehicles, defined as self-propelled vehicles designated primarily for the transportation of persons or property over public highways, including the self-propelled vehicle and chassis of motor homes.
The lemon law does not cover the portions of a motor home designed, used or maintained primarily as a mobile dwelling, office or commercial space, or vehicles with a declared gross weight over 10,000 pounds.
My interpretation is that motorcycles are covered under the Arizona Lemon Law.
Some additional good news under the Arizona Lemon Law. Under the sub-title of “VEHICLE CONVERTERS”, there is a simple one sentence statement:
The lemon law applies to vehicle converters.
I interrupt that to mean that Lehman also has culpability.
We may be getting a little ahead of our self’s; however, it is comforting to know that should reasonable attempts to deal with our trunk leaking problem fail; there is a recourse available in some states. Additionally, if nothing else, the threat of lemon law protection may be enough reason for Harley to take this problem seriously!
Each state has its own Lemon Law and I suggest that each of you research your respective State Lemon Law to determine if a motorcycle qualifies as a vehicle covered in your state Lemon Law.
Additionally, each state has a prescribed Time Period for Filing Claims, Reasonable Number of Attempts to Repair, Problems Covered, Notice and Opportunity to Repair, Dispute Resolution, etc. If you think that you may avail yourself of the Lemon Law remedy; I suggest that you familiarize yourself with your responsibilities under your state Lemon Law.
I have researched the Arizona Lemon Law and under VEHICLES COVERED Arizona Rev. Stat. section 44-1261 states:
The Arizona lemon law covers motor vehicles, defined as self-propelled vehicles designated primarily for the transportation of persons or property over public highways, including the self-propelled vehicle and chassis of motor homes.
The lemon law does not cover the portions of a motor home designed, used or maintained primarily as a mobile dwelling, office or commercial space, or vehicles with a declared gross weight over 10,000 pounds.
My interpretation is that motorcycles are covered under the Arizona Lemon Law.
Some additional good news under the Arizona Lemon Law. Under the sub-title of “VEHICLE CONVERTERS”, there is a simple one sentence statement:
The lemon law applies to vehicle converters.
I interrupt that to mean that Lehman also has culpability.
We may be getting a little ahead of our self’s; however, it is comforting to know that should reasonable attempts to deal with our trunk leaking problem fail; there is a recourse available in some states. Additionally, if nothing else, the threat of lemon law protection may be enough reason for Harley to take this problem seriously!
Last edited by TheJimer; 05-20-2009 at 12:38 PM.
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05-20-2009 | 02:52 PM
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need help to decipher the item in bold please & thank you!
VEHICLES COVERED
The Missouri lemon law covers any new motor vehicle being transferred for the first
time from a manufacturer, distributor or new vehicle dealer; that has not been
registered or titled in the state or any other state; and that is offered for sale, barter or
exchange by a dealer franchised to sell, barter or exchange that particular make of new
motor vehicle. This includes demonstrators or lease-purchase vehicles as long as a
manufacturer’s warranty was issued as a condition of sale.
The lemon law does not cover used vehicles, and appears not to cover leased vehicles
unless acquired through a lease-purchase. The lemon law does not cover commercial
motor vehicles, off-road vehicles, mopeds, motorcycles, and recreational motor vehicles
other than the chassis, engine, powertrain and component parts.time from a manufacturer, distributor or new vehicle dealer; that has not been
registered or titled in the state or any other state; and that is offered for sale, barter or
exchange by a dealer franchised to sell, barter or exchange that particular make of new
motor vehicle. This includes demonstrators or lease-purchase vehicles as long as a
manufacturer’s warranty was issued as a condition of sale.
The lemon law does not cover used vehicles, and appears not to cover leased vehicles
unless acquired through a lease-purchase. The lemon law does not cover commercial
motor vehicles, off-road vehicles, mopeds, motorcycles, and recreational motor vehicles
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05-20-2009 | 03:59 PM
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Looks like the Ohio lemon law covers motorcycles. As TheJimer mentioned its a way of getting the Moco to take the folks who have these problems seriously. Lets face it, a 30 - 32K bike shouldn't run hot, ping and allow water to leak into its trunk. One way to look at the heat issue is anyone who runs petroleum based oils is having them ruined in short order by the 300+ deg oil temp. It doesn't take long to cook off the base stock and additive package. With the heat that these are putting out a good synthetic is the way to fly and protect your investment.
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05-20-2009 | 04:42 PM
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Tririder,
In the process of researching various state lemon laws. I have discovered that other states (ie. NY, KY & ID) have similar language to that of Missouri 407.0560 Definitions (6) “New motor vehicle”.
I certainly am not an expert on “Lemon Laws”; or Missouri State Law; therefore the following is solely a uniformed opinion; based upon my reading of the statute: I am of the opinion that such language specifically excludes motorcycles from lemon law protection.
As always, it would be prudent to consult an attorney licensed to practice in your state.
Good luck,
Jim
VEHICLES COVERED
The Missouri lemon law covers any new motor vehicle being transferred for the first
time from a manufacturer, distributor or new vehicle dealer; that has not been
registered or titled in the state or any other state; and that is offered for sale, barter or
exchange by a dealer franchised to sell, barter or exchange that particular make of new
motor vehicle. This includes demonstrators or lease-purchase vehicles as long as a
manufacturer’s warranty was issued as a condition of sale.
The lemon law does not cover used vehicles, and appears not to cover leased vehicles
unless acquired through a lease-purchase. The lemon law does not cover commercial
motor vehicles, off-road vehicles, mopeds, motorcycles, and recreational motor vehicles
other than the chassis, engine, powertrain and component parts.time from a manufacturer, distributor or new vehicle dealer; that has not been
registered or titled in the state or any other state; and that is offered for sale, barter or
exchange by a dealer franchised to sell, barter or exchange that particular make of new
motor vehicle. This includes demonstrators or lease-purchase vehicles as long as a
manufacturer’s warranty was issued as a condition of sale.
The lemon law does not cover used vehicles, and appears not to cover leased vehicles
unless acquired through a lease-purchase. The lemon law does not cover commercial
motor vehicles, off-road vehicles, mopeds, motorcycles, and recreational motor vehicles
In the process of researching various state lemon laws. I have discovered that other states (ie. NY, KY & ID) have similar language to that of Missouri 407.0560 Definitions (6) “New motor vehicle”.
I certainly am not an expert on “Lemon Laws”; or Missouri State Law; therefore the following is solely a uniformed opinion; based upon my reading of the statute: I am of the opinion that such language specifically excludes motorcycles from lemon law protection.
As always, it would be prudent to consult an attorney licensed to practice in your state.
Good luck,
Jim
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05-21-2009 | 03:17 PM
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This 2008 website has a decent state by state list if you care to read this instead of surfing the net.
Click Here
This list, also from the same 2008 website, has the names and numbers of Lemon law attorneys if you care to contact one.
Click Here
Click Here
This list, also from the same 2008 website, has the names and numbers of Lemon law attorneys if you care to contact one.
Click Here
