Splitting Lanes: Should it be Legal Everywhere?
#371
Straddling the line is not sharing. Sharing is within a single lane. There are no laws about sharing, so there isn't one that says a car can't share with a bike, or a car with a car, or any other 2 vehicles.
#372
what reason would you have to open your door in this instance ? if you are in a lane of traffic that is designed to have moving cars in it and or on one or more sides (ie anywhere but the shoulder or emergency lane) unless your vehicle is not functioning you have no legitimate reason for opening your door.
The key here is traffic is stopped, not moving, as in everyone is standing still.
secondly if a moving vehicle hits the door then it obviously was not safe to open the door.
#373
Scooters take up much less lane space then cages. Would it be legal for a small, or even a large, cage if it will fit to 'split' the lane between scooters riding in adjoining lanes,. or between a scooter in one lane and another cage in the next lane?
I'm just curious, so no smartazz comments please.
I'm just curious, so no smartazz comments please.
Do the naysayers on this thread realize that most EU countries allow "filtering"? A lot of studies in Europe state that it's safe and can improve traffic flow. In cities such as London with narrow lanes, minimal shoulders and massive congestion, life would be unbearable without filtering.
The congestion part certainly applies to California. Two of the top three congested areas in the country are here in the golden state. If you haven't experienced it you're only talking through your A$$.
#374
If you open your door in traffic and a motorcycle that is LEGALLY riding between traffic and hits it, it was not reasonably safe to open said door. Therefore you will be cited. The reason why it wasn't reasonably safe is because it caused an accident with another motorist who was not breaking the law.
Please, this does not require much in the way of reasoning skills to understand.
Last edited by dribble; 09-19-2014 at 10:13 AM.
#376
I have had it happen, also. It really shocked me because I was running about 50. The other lane was empty but for some reason this cage chose not to use it.
I would probably lane split, if the traffic here required it, but where I ride it doesn't. I'm really glad because I don't trust anybody on the road.
I would probably lane split, if the traffic here required it, but where I ride it doesn't. I'm really glad because I don't trust anybody on the road.
Last edited by rjg883c; 09-19-2014 at 10:16 AM.
#377
You know it's funny, the only time I've ever seen someone open a door in traffic was a few years ago in Oakland, CA. Some commuter was trying to stop guys from splitting lanes in slow and go traffic by moving into their way with his car. When that didn't work, he opened his door in front of a bike.
Wasn't you was it? 'Cause honestly, you seem like the type.
In a state where it's legal and very common for motorcycles to split lanes?
Yes.
Even though it's a fairly common practice to dump coffee and other drinks out the window, it's not legal in many places.
Even though it's a fairly common practice to dump coffee and other drinks out the window, it's not legal in many places.
Odds are the motorcyclist will be watching for idiots that do that kind if stuff though because we are used to watching out for people doing stupid crap in traffic.
Yes....You have said that before, we got it.
So then, Is it illegal to change lanes? Of course not.
News flash genius, the lines are there to "define" the lanes, ever been on a road without lines? I have, many times.
They kind of are a suggestion otherwise I guess they'd put up a fence.
It's legal to split lanes in California, your position here holds no water.
I have told you to do that, but you insist on falling further and further behind.
It's hard to visualize what the world must look like from your perspective....
I am absolutely right and have stated nothing but facts here.
You, on the other hand....
It's hard to visualize what the world must look like from your perspective....
I am absolutely right and have stated nothing but facts here.
You, on the other hand....
From Wiki (and other sources):
No law explicitly and clearly prohibits lane splitting, and it has become the policy of law enforcement, the courts, and the public in California to tolerate it when it is done safely.
#378
You all have my sympathy.
Last edited by rjg883c; 09-19-2014 at 10:18 AM.
#379
If a cager purposefully opens his door while seated in traffic on a freeway and causes a biker to get injured, its attempted murder with a deadly weapon.
All these pages and still the childish behavior..........."if I have no ***** to do it, you cannot either"
Unbelievable. These are grown men that are the most childish, immature folks I have ever found among riders
All these pages and still the childish behavior..........."if I have no ***** to do it, you cannot either"
Unbelievable. These are grown men that are the most childish, immature folks I have ever found among riders
#380
If a cager purposefully opens his door while seated in traffic on a freeway and causes a biker to get injured, its attempted murder with a deadly weapon.
All these pages and still the childish behavior..........."if I have no ***** to do it, you cannot either"
Unbelievable. These are grown men that are the most childish, immature folks I have ever found among riders
All these pages and still the childish behavior..........."if I have no ***** to do it, you cannot either"
Unbelievable. These are grown men that are the most childish, immature folks I have ever found among riders
Given the mentality of the drivers I see on the road these days, I think it would be a mistake to legalize splitting. We can't even stop them from using cell phones, and we're going to get them to pay attention to what's going on between lanes?
No thanks.