Splitting Lanes: Should it be Legal Everywhere?
#351
09-18-2014 | 01:46 PM
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Legally or which way....? Curious if it is illegal. Here in freedom loving Idaho you can run red lights if they don't change for you on a motorcycle. Anything that happens is on the motorcyclist at that point though.
Is lane sharing legal in Cali? I don't mean splitting, but actual sharing.
Originally I said I wasn't sure how I felt. Now after stewing it over for a while.....yes it should be legal everywhere. I personally wouldn't do it, but don't care if others want to.
Last edited by BigDogIdaho; 09-18-2014 at 01:50 PM.
#352
09-18-2014 | 03:02 PM
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Or "Americans".
#354
09-18-2014 | 10:19 PM
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That's pretty much the way it works in Europe (not the shoulder obviously), but multi lane highways are set up so the lane nearest the shoulder is the "slow lane", and then they go faster as you move towards the central divider. No regulated speeds for the different lanes, just that if you want to pass, the guy in front can either move into a gap in the slower lane, or you can move into the faster lane to pass then move back into the slower lane.
It's considered polite to move over for a faster vehicle to pass and not to hog a lane and block traffic flow. In many countries you can get a ticket for lane hogging and impeding the flow of traffic.
It works very well, although sometimes you do get an idiot in the fast lane travelling at the speed limit or below and not moving over for faster vehicles.
These people are known as "arseholes".
It's considered polite to move over for a faster vehicle to pass and not to hog a lane and block traffic flow. In many countries you can get a ticket for lane hogging and impeding the flow of traffic.
It works very well, although sometimes you do get an idiot in the fast lane travelling at the speed limit or below and not moving over for faster vehicles.
These people are known as "arseholes".
My dumb ***, sitting in a traffic jam & a Polizei motor unit rolls up, signals me to follow him & off we went.
#355
09-18-2014 | 10:30 PM
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They have those reflectors here also. There are groups of 3 'dots' every 5 feet or so with a reflector in front of the first dot. Sometimes the reflector strip is very poorly done and has a gouge in front of it.
#356
09-19-2014 | 06:59 AM
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Yes it is illegal.
22517. No person shall open the door of a vehicle on the side
available to moving traffic unless it is reasonably safe to do so and
can be done without interfering with the movement of such traffic,
nor shall any person leave a door open on the side of a vehicle
available to moving traffic for a period of time longer than
necessary to load or unload passengers.
22517. No person shall open the door of a vehicle on the side
available to moving traffic unless it is reasonably safe to do so and
can be done without interfering with the movement of such traffic,
nor shall any person leave a door open on the side of a vehicle
available to moving traffic for a period of time longer than
necessary to load or unload passengers.
#357
09-19-2014 | 07:02 AM
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It is tolerated in CA because it is not explicitly illegal, as it is in the other 49 states.
Last edited by mmancuso; 09-19-2014 at 07:06 AM.
#358
09-19-2014 | 07:06 AM
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Why object if someone else wants to lane split? The only risk is to the rider. It doesn't cost anyone else anything. This stuff about "wait in line like everyone else" is nothing but petty jealousy.
Don't want to do it? That's good. Don't do it. What difference does it make if someone else does?
Don't want to do it? That's good. Don't do it. What difference does it make if someone else does?
I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but don't be so naïve as to think the only cost is to the rider taking the risk.
#359
09-19-2014 | 07:35 AM
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I hate to point out to you that, if a motorcycle is legally splitting lanes, all vehicles are NOT stopped and it therefore becomes illegal for you to open your door, even under your stupid scenario.
Because it's "not explicitly illegal" means it's legal.
I'll try to help you through this....
Not illegal means......Legal.
Please try to keep up.
I think anyone who has to clean a rider off of the inside of his cage door, or who has that door ripped of their hands, might disagree.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but don't be so naïve as to think the only cost is to the rider taking the risk.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but don't be so naïve as to think the only cost is to the rider taking the risk.
You remind me of the type of cop that can't actually find anything "illegal" about what you're doing, but he just "has to write you for something". so he just makes something up.
#360
09-19-2014 | 07:44 AM
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So you're saying that all drivers should check when stopped in traffic to ensure that someone is not moving up between lanes? How about if they just stick their arm out their window to empty their coffee cup?
Because it's "not explicitly illegal" means it's legal.
I'll try to help you through this....
Not illegal means......Legal.
Please try to keep up.
I'll try to help you through this....
Not illegal means......Legal.
Please try to keep up.
Try to keep up.
You remind me of the type of cop that can't actually find anything "illegal" about what you're doing, but he just "has to write you for something". so he just makes something up.
Last edited by mmancuso; 09-19-2014 at 07:48 AM.