Court for helmet ticket today...UPDATE
#91
03-28-2007, 09:26 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
ORIGINAL: The Punisher
This thread has gotten way of course. An officer doesn't need Probable Cause to stop a vehicle, only Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that a crime has been, is occurring or is about to occur. And violations of the traffic laws (including equipment violations)in most states are misdemeanor crimes.
This thread has gotten way of course. An officer doesn't need Probable Cause to stop a vehicle, only Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that a crime has been, is occurring or is about to occur. And violations of the traffic laws (including equipment violations)in most states are misdemeanor crimes.
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03-28-2007, 10:43 AM
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RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
RMBob - Don't get your knickers in a knot. This is just a bunch of folks sitting around their PCs opinionating on a realitively minor issue w/ sketchy information. Relax a bit...please.
#93
03-28-2007, 11:05 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
Even though this thread has gotten off topic, I think it's safe to assume that the main complaint of most"folks sitting around their PCs, is that police are more into the business of "revenue generation"lately rather than theresworn duty to protect and serve.Personally, I don'tthink that applies to the whole "protecting me from myself" mentality. Kinda big brotherish, don't ya think?
#94
03-28-2007, 11:10 AM
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RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
So perhapsLEOs should go and attend to some of those more important (at least to the average biker) things instead of hassling someone who has made his own decision about his own safety?
#96
03-28-2007, 11:18 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
Well to late to help now but when I got a non-DOT helmet ticket it was also from a motor-cop. As he walked away from me I noticed that his helmet did not have a DOT sticker, so I got in my saddlebag grabbed handy-dandy Digital camera and asked to take his picture. I brought that picture to court, defense of If the LEO officers can't tell a DOT helmet and they are trained to how can I the consumer be expected too. Got mine dismissed and I think the county got new helmets (or at least a bunch of DOT stickers)
#97
03-28-2007, 11:20 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
ORIGINAL: bradvols
Well to late to help now but when I got a non-DOT helmet ticket it was also from a motor-cop. Ashe walked away from me I noticed that his helmet did not have a DOT sticker, show I got in my saddlebag grabbed handy-dandy Digital camera and asked to take his picture. I brought that picture to court defense of If the LEO officers can't tell a DOT helmet and they are trained to how can I the consumer be expected too. Got mine dismissed and I think the county got new helmets (or at least a bunch of DOT stickers)
Well to late to help now but when I got a non-DOT helmet ticket it was also from a motor-cop. Ashe walked away from me I noticed that his helmet did not have a DOT sticker, show I got in my saddlebag grabbed handy-dandy Digital camera and asked to take his picture. I brought that picture to court defense of If the LEO officers can't tell a DOT helmet and they are trained to how can I the consumer be expected too. Got mine dismissed and I think the county got new helmets (or at least a bunch of DOT stickers)
#98
03-28-2007, 11:21 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
Some of you might recall reading a post I made a month or so back about when I was a LEO (years ago) and in the late 50's saw a biker that had slid head first into the curb of a street and was beyond dead.
Well, I quite being a LEO before helmets became the law but, if I were still a LEO andafter that experience I had in the 50's, you canbelieve your asswould have been mine if I caught you without a dot helmet.
Makes me wonder. If the cop was really on his case could the cop have confiscated the non dot helmet or atleast refused to allow the operator to proceed with it andhave caused the operator a REAL problem.
Well, I quite being a LEO before helmets became the law but, if I were still a LEO andafter that experience I had in the 50's, you canbelieve your asswould have been mine if I caught you without a dot helmet.
Makes me wonder. If the cop was really on his case could the cop have confiscated the non dot helmet or atleast refused to allow the operator to proceed with it andhave caused the operator a REAL problem.
#99
03-28-2007, 11:28 AM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
ORIGINAL: RMBob
It's amazing to hear some of your replies to a $117 helmet ticket. For all of you that want to slam the LEO and call him an azz for giving the ticket maybe you should ask LEO's not to do other parts of thier job too. When a LEO comes to your house because a family member is having a medical emergency, you could tell him not to do his job. When your wife breaks down on her own in the middle of nowhere, tell the LEO to drive right by and not render aid. When your house has been burglarized tell him to not investigate the crime.
Who knows what other things the LEO did that day to help people and all you can do is slam him for a helmet ticket. The easy way to avoid a non DOT helmet ticket is to wear a DOThelmet. If you don't want to wear a DOT helmet because you want to protest the law, then don't cry when you get caught. Pay the fine and move on. Although I suspect there was no radical protest involved here, as most people who wear non-DOT helmets are not protesting, but just trying to look cool.
For those of you telling him to lie in court to get out of the ticket, would you tell your own kids to lie to get out of something they did? If your going to lie about a $117 ticket what else are you going to lie about, including things you say on this board.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with Anubisss riding with a non-DOT helmet. It's his God given right to protest the system if thats what he wants to do. Just don't cry when you get caught.
It's amazing to hear some of your replies to a $117 helmet ticket. For all of you that want to slam the LEO and call him an azz for giving the ticket maybe you should ask LEO's not to do other parts of thier job too. When a LEO comes to your house because a family member is having a medical emergency, you could tell him not to do his job. When your wife breaks down on her own in the middle of nowhere, tell the LEO to drive right by and not render aid. When your house has been burglarized tell him to not investigate the crime.
Who knows what other things the LEO did that day to help people and all you can do is slam him for a helmet ticket. The easy way to avoid a non DOT helmet ticket is to wear a DOThelmet. If you don't want to wear a DOT helmet because you want to protest the law, then don't cry when you get caught. Pay the fine and move on. Although I suspect there was no radical protest involved here, as most people who wear non-DOT helmets are not protesting, but just trying to look cool.
For those of you telling him to lie in court to get out of the ticket, would you tell your own kids to lie to get out of something they did? If your going to lie about a $117 ticket what else are you going to lie about, including things you say on this board.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with Anubisss riding with a non-DOT helmet. It's his God given right to protest the system if thats what he wants to do. Just don't cry when you get caught.
#100
03-28-2007, 12:07 PM
RE: Court for helmet ticket today...
this whole thing sounds phony as a $3.00 bill, all because somebody wanted to play rebel without a cause and Not wear a approved helmet..all the lost time and now money for bail, and somebody said your lawyer should do it for you. Are lawyers free in California? No way would this have gone this far for me, I fought the helmet law in Iowa when it was here, we beat it, we can ride helmet free if we choose..but not in California I guess, so whats wrong with being law abiding and wearing a Dot approved half helmet or shorty? nothing, but then if he would have done as he should we wouldn't have all this drama on here would we.
I hope you win in court, must really be important to you. And if you do win, what then?? another 3 pages of how I fought the man and won?
I hope you win in court, must really be important to you. And if you do win, what then?? another 3 pages of how I fought the man and won?