1st day battery no good, Trike 2014.
#11
02-19-2014, 09:35 PM
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Took out battery and delivered to Harley Sweetwater in Nasty City. Service manager gave me a funny look with all of the other mechanics. Who is this guy telling us he wants a new battery, finally convinced after they put it on a battery tester. No problem. Purchase a new battery charger for the tender plug. $60, new style charger 800 amps, discontinued the old ones for $40. Got new cover, catalog and looking at getting a set of fender bras and chrome rear bumper. That is it for now.
Al
Al
#12
02-19-2014, 09:46 PM
Road Master
Took out battery and delivered to Harley Sweetwater in Nasty City. Service manager gave me a funny look with all of the other mechanics. Who is this guy telling us he wants a new battery, finally convinced after they put it on a battery tester. No problem. Purchase a new battery charger for the tender plug. $60, new style charger 800 amps, discontinued the old ones for $40. Got new cover, catalog and looking at getting a set of fender bras and chrome rear bumper. That is it for now.
Al
Al
800 amps would blow the doors off the garage.
#13
02-20-2014, 09:40 AM
Unofficial HDF Chaplain
batteries are powering a lot more stuff these days. more draw, more consumers, more things with memory. fuel injection, stereo's nav units more lighting, theres quite a difference from the cars and bikes from 6,8, or 10 years ago. that all takes a toll on the battery
#14
02-20-2014, 02:38 PM
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I am a service manager for a landscape equipment distributor and some of our equipment we distribute now uses the AGM batteries. These batteries are actually better than the wet cells for many reasons. The problem with them is many people are replacing them for no reason. Once a glass matt battery discharges below 80% you can NOT recharge them with a standard battery charger. You will need a charger that has a AGM setting on it or you need to put a regular wet cell battery in series. You need to fool the standard charger.
AGM Battery Charging Facts: If your charger does not have an “AGM” setting on it then
you’ll have to trick your charger into sensing the AGM battery. An AGM battery can discharge
over 80% of it charge and still be good. Normal wet cells can not discharge 80% of their
charge and still be good. Therefore older chargers are designed to not turn on when a
battery is deeply discharged. To make an old charger sense the presence of an AGM battery
you will need to hook the AGM battery in series (positive to positive, negative to negative as
shown below) with another battery that still has at least 10.5 volts. The charger will now
charge both batteries at the same time. Leave it on charge a couple hours and if the AGM
battery is still actually good, just deeply discharged, it will come right back to life.
Here is also a good read on AGM batteries http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/g...y/viewall.html
AGM Battery Charging Facts: If your charger does not have an “AGM” setting on it then
you’ll have to trick your charger into sensing the AGM battery. An AGM battery can discharge
over 80% of it charge and still be good. Normal wet cells can not discharge 80% of their
charge and still be good. Therefore older chargers are designed to not turn on when a
battery is deeply discharged. To make an old charger sense the presence of an AGM battery
you will need to hook the AGM battery in series (positive to positive, negative to negative as
shown below) with another battery that still has at least 10.5 volts. The charger will now
charge both batteries at the same time. Leave it on charge a couple hours and if the AGM
battery is still actually good, just deeply discharged, it will come right back to life.
Here is also a good read on AGM batteries http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/g...y/viewall.html
#15
02-20-2014, 04:11 PM
Road Captain
#17
02-20-2014, 04:45 PM
80% charge would be about 11.6 volts on a lead acid battery.
On another note, I haven't had a problem with getting an AGM battery to take a charge, the new ones I have had wont hold a charge, working fine on a daily driver, but going flat if undriven for a week or more. I AM aware of parasitic loads, and I have checked, no excessive parasitic load exists, proven with a flooded cell battery working just fine. I also have old AGM batteries that work just fine, 8-10 years old, it is the new ones (Optimas and Excide spiral cells) i have purchased that are not worth the money spent.
On another note, I haven't had a problem with getting an AGM battery to take a charge, the new ones I have had wont hold a charge, working fine on a daily driver, but going flat if undriven for a week or more. I AM aware of parasitic loads, and I have checked, no excessive parasitic load exists, proven with a flooded cell battery working just fine. I also have old AGM batteries that work just fine, 8-10 years old, it is the new ones (Optimas and Excide spiral cells) i have purchased that are not worth the money spent.
#18
02-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Road Captain
80% charge would be about 11.6 volts on a lead acid battery.
On another note, I haven't had a problem with getting an AGM battery to take a charge, the new ones I have had wont hold a charge, working fine on a daily driver, but going flat if undriven for a week or more. I AM aware of parasitic loads, and I have checked, no excessive parasitic load exists, proven with a flooded cell battery working just fine. I also have old AGM batteries that work just fine, 8-10 years old, it is the new ones (Optimas and Excide spiral cells) i have purchased that are not worth the money spent.
On another note, I haven't had a problem with getting an AGM battery to take a charge, the new ones I have had wont hold a charge, working fine on a daily driver, but going flat if undriven for a week or more. I AM aware of parasitic loads, and I have checked, no excessive parasitic load exists, proven with a flooded cell battery working just fine. I also have old AGM batteries that work just fine, 8-10 years old, it is the new ones (Optimas and Excide spiral cells) i have purchased that are not worth the money spent.
#19
02-20-2014, 05:04 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
An 800 amp welder costs about 35 grand...
