Lay it down, or ride it out?
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03-07-2007, 09:03 PM
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RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
This is my little tale: Back in Nov.it was a beautiful Sunday, so I rode over (30mi) to Battlefield Harley in Gettysburg Pa. On my way back home (I glanced away for a second) I looked up and a SUV was stopped. I hit the brakes, naturally the rear wanted to come around. I could see what the outcome was going to be. Couldn't go right to the burm. Don't want to lay it down! (did that once before). So I chose to get off the back brake and keep on the front brake andride it to the left toward the oncoming traffic. I ended up riding on the double yellow line BETWEEN the traffic, hoping to keep it upright. I clicked the tail light of the SUV with the ball on the end of my brake lever.(NOW THAT'S CLOSE)!!!!!!
When I came to a stop, I had gone past 2 cars that were stopped not just one !!! I looked over my shoulder at the woman in the car, clicked it down to low gear and got out of there at a huge speed. No skidmarks were in my BVD'S, my azz was SO tight I had pulled a couple inches of vinyl up in my crack. My wife doesn't know about this one, and I ain't telling her either.
When I came to a stop, I had gone past 2 cars that were stopped not just one !!! I looked over my shoulder at the woman in the car, clicked it down to low gear and got out of there at a huge speed. No skidmarks were in my BVD'S, my azz was SO tight I had pulled a couple inches of vinyl up in my crack. My wife doesn't know about this one, and I ain't telling her either.
#34
03-07-2007, 09:38 PM
RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
ORIGINAL: zombie
You know, I've heard the argument a lot, "I laid it down to avoid an accident" and most of the publications I've read including one that I just finished written for LEO motors is that what that means is, "I paniced and laid it down because I lost control". What the author of the book refers to this as is "I had one collision to avoid another collision."
I haven't been in that situation and will never second guess someone who has.
Don't think I can answer this question accurately, has the car already pulled out and am I looking at a rear impact or a side impact. I'm going to want to scrub as much speed as I can and I can do that more effectively on rubber than metal. What is my current speed, can I scrub enough speed off to make a right where the car is pulling out from? Can I split the lane between oncoming traffic and the car that pulled out in front of me? Too many variables to give an accurate description of my response.
You know, I've heard the argument a lot, "I laid it down to avoid an accident" and most of the publications I've read including one that I just finished written for LEO motors is that what that means is, "I paniced and laid it down because I lost control". What the author of the book refers to this as is "I had one collision to avoid another collision."
I haven't been in that situation and will never second guess someone who has.
Don't think I can answer this question accurately, has the car already pulled out and am I looking at a rear impact or a side impact. I'm going to want to scrub as much speed as I can and I can do that more effectively on rubber than metal. What is my current speed, can I scrub enough speed off to make a right where the car is pulling out from? Can I split the lane between oncoming traffic and the car that pulled out in front of me? Too many variables to give an accurate description of my response.
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#35
03-07-2007, 10:11 PM
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RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
"Ride Like a Pro" and all Motorcycle Safety Schools say ride it out. Do not lock the rear brake and if you do, do not release it until you are completely stopped.If you doyou run the risk of a high side.
Regards,
Bill
Regards,
Bill
#36
03-07-2007, 10:16 PM
RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
ORIGINAL: billnourse
"Ride Like a Pro" and all Motorcycle Safety Schools say ride it out. Do not lock the rear brake and if you do, do not release it until you are completely stopped. If you do you run the risk of a high side.
Regards,
Bill
"Ride Like a Pro" and all Motorcycle Safety Schools say ride it out. Do not lock the rear brake and if you do, do not release it until you are completely stopped. If you do you run the risk of a high side.
Regards,
Bill
#37
03-07-2007, 11:10 PM
RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
Lay it down or ride it out??? I have heard this statement a lot. If you are going to hit a car by using the brakes, how is laying it down going to avoid an accident? Going under, ya right. Does metal brake better than rubber? Or are your body parts against pavement a better braking material? I use brakes and hope I don’t loose control.
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03-07-2007, 11:29 PM
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RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
I think (hope) I could ride it out. Especially if I got one of the kids with me.
My senses go up a notch when they are on the back.
My senses go up a notch when they are on the back.
#39
03-07-2007, 11:29 PM
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RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
Jim,
Had a friend killed that way some years ago. We were on a group ride and the bike in front of the one that she was a passenger on hit gravel and went down. The bike she was on locked the back tire andwent into a side skid. The rider let off of the brakes at about 15 MPH and she was thrown to the pavement like a rag doll breaking her neck.
The SW Rally ride we are going on in June will be the first time I have been on that road since.
Regards,
Bill
Had a friend killed that way some years ago. We were on a group ride and the bike in front of the one that she was a passenger on hit gravel and went down. The bike she was on locked the back tire andwent into a side skid. The rider let off of the brakes at about 15 MPH and she was thrown to the pavement like a rag doll breaking her neck.
The SW Rally ride we are going on in June will be the first time I have been on that road since.
Regards,
Bill
#40
03-07-2007, 11:37 PM
RE: Lay it down, or ride it out?
ORIGINAL: billnourse
Jim,
Had a friend killed that way some years ago. We were on a group ride and the bike in front of the one that she was a passenger on hit gravel and went down. The bike she was on locked the back tire and went into a side skid. The rider let off of the brakes at about 15 MPH and she was thrown to the pavement like a rag doll breaking her neck.
The SW Rally ride we are going on in June will be the first time I have been on that road since.
Regards,
Bill
Jim,
Had a friend killed that way some years ago. We were on a group ride and the bike in front of the one that she was a passenger on hit gravel and went down. The bike she was on locked the back tire and went into a side skid. The rider let off of the brakes at about 15 MPH and she was thrown to the pavement like a rag doll breaking her neck.
The SW Rally ride we are going on in June will be the first time I have been on that road since.
Regards,
Bill
I drive down the same road my friend went down,everyday.I tend to slow down & flashback to a friend who was so full of life.