On another note....some pipes are quiet with crappy performance.

 

I'd certainly like to see some actual dyno numbers of short drag pipes vs a good 2 into 1 with everything else equal and some with and without baffles runs.

I have no doubt their is a performance loss but i'd like to see the actual numbers.

I've only seen one dyno sheet that was similar to what i'm talking about and the difference was very small.