ABS brakes saved my ass last night...
#61
Dave
#62
[quote=Markk9;11408560]For riding on a public road, were the surface is changing every foot you travel, you will not be able to thresh hold brake as well. On a closed course, with a known conditions, thresh hold braking works great.
ABS is not prefect, you still must know to use your brakes, but I would much rather have the ABS, knowing it's short comings.
I think a lot of riders assume ABS is the save all, end all of using their brakes. They never learn how to properly brake a bike, ****, there are still many riders that believe in using the rear brakes only. I work with a guy that has gone through 3 sets of rear pads and is still on the factory front pads.[/quote]
Unfortunately, it is MUCH much worse than this... MANY riders have no idea what counter-steering is and STILL believe that 'laying the bike down and riding it like a skate board' is THE thing to do... Sad/SCARY...
In addition, regarding the ABS discussion; There are a LOT of riders who do not have ABS, wish they did, and can do nothing but find-fault/poke-holes in the technology... I understand the skills involved, heck I have been riding since mid-60's, been in an awful wreck (Toole, Utah) going XC/back to college, and I understand human nature that may be 'behind the (financial/re-sale) curve'... But FWIW, if/when YOU do the homework, you will eventually conclude that (integrated/combined) ABS is THE way to go... The sooner you get there, the better... I am praying for YOU...
ABS is not prefect, you still must know to use your brakes, but I would much rather have the ABS, knowing it's short comings.
I think a lot of riders assume ABS is the save all, end all of using their brakes. They never learn how to properly brake a bike, ****, there are still many riders that believe in using the rear brakes only. I work with a guy that has gone through 3 sets of rear pads and is still on the factory front pads.[/quote]
Unfortunately, it is MUCH much worse than this... MANY riders have no idea what counter-steering is and STILL believe that 'laying the bike down and riding it like a skate board' is THE thing to do... Sad/SCARY...
In addition, regarding the ABS discussion; There are a LOT of riders who do not have ABS, wish they did, and can do nothing but find-fault/poke-holes in the technology... I understand the skills involved, heck I have been riding since mid-60's, been in an awful wreck (Toole, Utah) going XC/back to college, and I understand human nature that may be 'behind the (financial/re-sale) curve'... But FWIW, if/when YOU do the homework, you will eventually conclude that (integrated/combined) ABS is THE way to go... The sooner you get there, the better... I am praying for YOU...
Last edited by user_1534GD; 06-13-2013 at 07:07 PM.
#63
Elite HDF Member
For THOSE that knock ABS, put it this way: If you're activating the ABS, you're probably not as good as braking as you think anyway.
#65
You will know.....the brakes will start pulsing much faster than you could do it by hand or foot
#68
I did that a few days later, scared about what to expect. But......Wow. It was so cool to come to stops on a wet road without control issues.
The Harley antilocks seem a bit less refined, but work well all the same. This is my fourth bike with antilocks. They are a must have now.
#69
You would definitely know it. With the rear brake it feels to me like somebody hitting the bottom of the brake pedal with a hammer or something. Similar to the way it did the other night when I braked too hard driving my wife's Honda Odyssey As far as the front brake for me it was a little more subtle but it feels like the lever is kind of vibrating I guess. Like others have said a wet surface is a good place to try it out on in part because it's a lot easier to get it to activate.