ORIGINAL: Clammy

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for stupid people who recklessly endanger the lives of others. If in the course of their recklessness, they only hurt or kill themselves, the rest of us are lucky, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Why should I give a **** about some mindless fool who obviously doesn't give a crap about anyone else? They reap what they sow. Unfortunately, they also hurt and kill many innocent people along the way. The less of them on the road the better.

I don't "wish" for them to die, but I don't care if they do.

Cheers!
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ORIGINAL: mgumto
Sounds like Clammy has never in his life riddena wheelie or driven recklesslyever. I bet he's never drank and driven home either. He must be a perfect citizen. Glad he's in Canada, our little bitch of a country that it is. Saying you "dont care" if he lives or dies because he was being reckless is just plain ridiculous. Hmm, I wonder if you say the same when someone who's driving safely gets hit by a car?? You don't care then either I bet. Or wait, since they were driving and obeying traffic laws, you do feel bad for them and sympathize with that scenario. Bottom line is this guy was a fellow biker. I've seen plenty of idiots on Harleys and all bikes and I never wish this upon them. And like someone else said, this guy basically was riding like most of us have in the past but unfortunately for him, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

ORIGINAL: kpreese

I agree, I certainly hope he survives. If he is going to kill someone later, then I would want him to die. Of course, we have no way of knowing. But this idiot shouldn't be allowed to have a drivers license for 5 years and maybe never a motorcycle license ever again. We need REAL penalties for this kind of riding/driving. Those idiots in their riced out civics are dangerous as well, they act like it's a video game.

You drive like crap, you lose your license for a year, do it again and it's 5 years, once more andno more license for you. Cause a wreck while doing something stupid and it needs to be very severe,BUT it should be severe even if you get lucky. And I wish we had a standard law like if you run from the cops, minimum 1 year in jail and no more drivers license PERIOD . . . EVER. And we need public service announcements on TV to that affect. When that kid has a chance to decide to pull over and get a ticket or *maybe* lose his license for a year orrunand go to jail and never ride/drive again, maybe he'll think twice.

They probably think that running has 3 outcomes: you wreck and get hurt, you get away or you get caught. The punishment for what they've already done is probably so close to that for an attempted get-away that they think it's worth the risk. They may think that last option isn't likely, but the punishment needs to be brutal if it does.

In my opinion, it is very similar to the DUI problem, there simply isn't enough deterent in place. People with no priors who kill someone while DUI are locked up for 10+ years and others with 5 DUIs are still driving. The difference is they didn't kill anyone . . . yet. THEY ALREADY COMMITTED THE CRIME when they got behind the wheel. I'm not saying someone that kills someone shouldn't be locked up, I'm just saying they think theodds of that happening are so low that it isn't a deterent at all. Tell people that a DUI means public humiliation and no driving for years (even if it costs them their job) and then it starts to become more of a deterent. We probably need to consider a mandatory 30 day jail sentence too.

Sorry for the rant, but I certainly hope he is alive and will recover. I just don't want him controlling a weapon anymore. Like many others, I've got some personal losses and scars due to other people who aren't smart enough to project ahead and see the consequences of their actions. People like that needa little help sometimes before they understand (or care) about making the right decision. The consequences are paid by others TOO OFTEN.

Kevin

ORIGINAL: Clammy

Yeah, whatever, pal. You should actually read what I wrote before going off on your little rant. My unsympathetic viewpoint extends ONLY to those who recklessly endanger others by their actions. If the guy was riding like a human and got run over by some cager or lost control of his bike, I'd feel bad for him, but he did this to himself, so to me it's one less moron putting ME in danger on the road, and that's a good thing. If he croaks, oh well. He decided to do what he did, and he has to accept the consequences.

Sure I've done dumb things (although wheelies on a motorcycle isn't one of them), like everyone else. I got away with some and got into trouble with some. But I took my lumps and accepted responsibility for my actions, and eventually learned to not do dumbass crap in the first place. If I was to drive like a retard, endangering the lives of others around me and I bought it, I'd have no one to blame but ME, and no one should feel bad for me killing myself due to stupidity.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's *** if EVERY person on the planet rode like that. It doesn't excuse this guy, or anyone else who is so selfish that they put others' lives in danger by riding like that.

People that ride like this clown may as well be walking around randomly firing guns into crowds. So if they take themselves out before killing me or anyone else, all the better. How sympathetic would you be if he'd crashed into a car full of kids and killed a couple?

Finally, as I said in my previous post. I don't "wish" the guy to die, I just don't care if he does. HE chose to be an idiot, and if he has to pay for it with his life, it was HIS decision. HIS desicion could have hurt or killed someone else.

Oh, and nice shot at the whole country. You really got me with the "Canada is our little bitch" remark.[sm=icon_rofl.gif]

Cheers!
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