Counter "balancing" in a turn.....
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Badherb,,doesn'tthis give you'the slingshot effect'?
"better technique is toroll on the throttle in the middle of a turn right before your apex and leaning (counter steering) in to it at the same time this the safest turn and the one with the most traction and can actually give you faster turns. try it! works awesome.
"better technique is toroll on the throttle in the middle of a turn right before your apex and leaning (counter steering) in to it at the same time this the safest turn and the one with the most traction and can actually give you faster turns. try it! works awesome.
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For those of you who do not fully understand what is being discussed and are going to try it, please post pics of your bike after they have skidded across the pavement. I do it on occassions and I do feel like I have more control but, as previously mentioned, push too far to the left or right and a floor plate will remind you that you are not on an off-raod bike. Speaking from experience on this.
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I know I do some 'counterbalancing' but my comfort zone is lower speeds for very much of that. Always try to mix my steer/lean/power-on vs. power-neutral vs. power-off depending on speed & radius of turn & road surface. There's usually 10 square inches, more or less, of rubber contact with the road trying to deal with almost 1,100 pounds of bike and me and g-forces at that small point of contact. It ain't all that technical IMO... feel it is more a Zen thing of all the good and bad[&o] things that the brain has learned
over almost 5 decades. But, I never realized how important 'power-on' is in turns on a heavy weight bike until about 10 years ago... as BadHerb alludes to.
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I feel a great sense of control with the above mentioned tech.... I feel stronger and more confident while in the turn and feel I can actually go faster than if I tried any other method, although that is not my intention or the way I want to ride. When you feel like your one with your bike it is a powerful feeling.
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Yes, but only at slow speeds, and to be totally honest, I do it more so on right hand turns. Turning left, I just crank it over, drag the footboards, and bring it around. For some reason however (mental block I am sure), I can't do that when turning to the right. I actually scoot my butt a bit to the left, and then let the bike lean on over, while I keep my upper body in a more upright position than the bike is.
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about the only counterbalancing I do is when my O/L decides to dig who knows what out of the saddlebags and not telling me she's gonna. I can feel the whole works going one way so she wants to counterbalance the other , while I nolonger know where the heck i'm going. She's only been riding for 18-20 yrs. I know I cant expect her to know everything by now right? yep, she's good for that one at least once a year.
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I was taught counterbalancing on slow speed turns in the MSF class.
I was taught counterbalancing on slow speed turns in the MSF class.
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