Originally Posted by mmancuso

Counterbalancing is one of those techniques touched on in the MSF courses when on the riding range.

Originally Posted by jimsflh

Yeah, when you are doing a tight turn at SLOW speed.

Originally Posted by Frankenbagger

They rent it, I payed for it, I ride it. I rode it like I would ride my own bike. If they find a damaged part I am liable for it, just like on my own bike. Its a rental vehicle, the druged out abused hookers of the vehicle industry, not some unsuspecting citizen's bike who let me borrow it in good faith. Stop acting offended like it was yours...

Originally Posted by mmancuso

My point was that they do touch on it, and as another mentioned, many seem unfamiliar with the concept.

Originally Posted by Lightyear68

Background on me--I've ridden 2 wheels since I was 10 years old starting with a Rupp Industries minibike, countless dirtbikes and streetbikes, all the way to my present Harley Fat Boy (I'm 44 years old). I have also taken multple rider courses and have read and understand the physics of Ride Like A Pro, Total Control, Maximum Control, and Proficient Motorcycling.

Regarding Softails and Touring Bikes (not canyon carving Dynas and Sportys):

One group on this forum writes that leaning hard into turns to the point of scraping is a rite of passage and a sign that one knows how to ride well.

Another group writes that scraping is a sign that you're going too fast, have reached the bike's lean limits, and about to wash out.

I'm still undecided, but will keep an open mind as folks way in.

Do you scrapers have to exceed the speed limit to get the lean needed to scrape?

I ride the speed limit and don't come close to having the speed to scrape.

Have you ever ridden the speed limit and scraped on a curve?

Is this an entry and exit ramp thing? A circle roundabout thing? A trackday thing?

Am I a responsible rider or have I just gotten too conservative in my old age?

Originally Posted by mmancuso

I'm offended that you would abuse a bike that's not yours, nothing more or less. I KNOW that people don't seem to give a **** about rentals. That doesn't make it right. I respect other people's property.

And you did end your comment with pitying the poor sucker who buys any rental that you've spent time on....taking pride in abusing property that's not yours. Yea, you offend me.

But the world is full of people like you, and though I accept it, I don't have to like it.

Originally Posted by Frankenbagger

It was just a comment, didnt realize we had the National Spokesperson For The Ethical Treatment Of The HD Rental Bikes on the forum....

I payed to use the property within terms of a certain contract. If the owner (not you) feels I broke the contract i'm liable, its between me and them. So your opinion doesn't mean ****.

I should probably edit my previous statement to "I would not want to be the sucker that bought any bike out of the rental program haha". Because this isnt happy dappy flowers and butterfly land where everyone rents a Harley to take it on a sweet babied 40mi ride to the park for the day where the ensure that its parked under sufficient cover from the weather, then park it inside their protective bubble for the night, and wash it and change the oil before returning it to the dealer. This is the real world, they get rented, run hard, run far, put away wet, and brought back dirty.

Sorry that I couldnt care less that I've offended you. Im jealous of "people like you". I mean, come on, your life is so dandy that you have time to waste on the internet whining about what one person does with a rental bike

Originally Posted by 02DynaHH

Ride em like you stole em! Rentals are like hookers, you're not paying to take them out for a nice romatic dinner!

Originally Posted by EveHD

+1
44 and you consider yourself old? OMG I'm Ancient!!!