Learn From Our Mistakes: Lessons In Crash Prevention
#31
My advice: if this is new or unknown information to you, then you should take a basic rider's course.
#33
BAH, you don't know what ornery is. I didn't say that everyone should know everything, but what I've read on this thread, are all things that someone who wants to survive a ride should already know. Pay attention, patience, don't trust anyone, etc., etc. - they're all basic "rules" that you shouldn't have to get into an accident to learn.
My advice: if this is new or unknown information to you, then you should take a basic rider's course.
My advice: if this is new or unknown information to you, then you should take a basic rider's course.
#36
Riding home from work, headed SW on an "urban highway" - two lanes each direction, with grass median and turn lanes. Stopped at the stop light in the left lane and started up when it turned green. 1/4 mile up the road, Soccer Mom in the minivan with three kids pulls out of the parking lot on the right, crosses the empty right-hand lane, and pulls in front of me. I'm doing 40+ on the way to the speed limit of 50, and tried like hell to stop.
I had time to evaluate going to the left of the minivan, but chose not to because the curb there is square, and I didn't want to hit that and slide under her wheels. One witness reported minivan mom hit the brakes before I hit her - she probably looked in the rear-view, saw me, and locked the brakes.
I failed to stop (in part because I locked up the rear wheel) and totalled the bike on the rear bumper. Total damage to the minivan: zero.
Even though I hit her from behind, the cops looked at the skid mark and determined she failed to yield when entering the roadway - she was identified as the cause of the accident, and got a $75+costs ticket. I got $7,000+ for a bike I paid $4,000 for, my boots, helmet, jacket, and gloves.
Lesons:
Sun glare on my un-clean windshield may have contributed to me not seeing the minivan about to leave the parking lot.
I failed to observe the cars in the right lane as we left the stoplight. I didn't know where they were, and so couldn't use the right lane to escape.
I locked up the back brake, and almost instantly released it, then locked it up again, and rode it out.
So when I replaced the bike (thanks to her insurance company - thank you, progressive!) I spent time in the parking lot going roundy roundy, and also going straight and stopping at increasing rates of speed.
I also now practice "urgent" braking at least once per ride - only when I know there is no one behind me, I will grab all the brakes I can to get used to the feeling of brake-until-just-before-the-tire-slides.
I also keep my windshield in the garage, or clean it when it's on the bike.
I had time to evaluate going to the left of the minivan, but chose not to because the curb there is square, and I didn't want to hit that and slide under her wheels. One witness reported minivan mom hit the brakes before I hit her - she probably looked in the rear-view, saw me, and locked the brakes.
I failed to stop (in part because I locked up the rear wheel) and totalled the bike on the rear bumper. Total damage to the minivan: zero.
Even though I hit her from behind, the cops looked at the skid mark and determined she failed to yield when entering the roadway - she was identified as the cause of the accident, and got a $75+costs ticket. I got $7,000+ for a bike I paid $4,000 for, my boots, helmet, jacket, and gloves.
Lesons:
Sun glare on my un-clean windshield may have contributed to me not seeing the minivan about to leave the parking lot.
I failed to observe the cars in the right lane as we left the stoplight. I didn't know where they were, and so couldn't use the right lane to escape.
I locked up the back brake, and almost instantly released it, then locked it up again, and rode it out.
So when I replaced the bike (thanks to her insurance company - thank you, progressive!) I spent time in the parking lot going roundy roundy, and also going straight and stopping at increasing rates of speed.
I also now practice "urgent" braking at least once per ride - only when I know there is no one behind me, I will grab all the brakes I can to get used to the feeling of brake-until-just-before-the-tire-slides.
I also keep my windshield in the garage, or clean it when it's on the bike.
#38
Don't be in a big hurry, bad things happen quickly so give yourself time to react. Also, watch cars like a hawk and ask yourself if it is physically possible for a motorist to do something (for example pull out in front of you, lock up the brakes for no reason, turn without signalling, dart towards an exit from two lanes over, etc, ad nauseum). If something is possible, be ready for it. Also, use the pipes and horn when you can.
By the way, I actually saw some dipshit lock up his car brakes (no ABS) on the freeway doing 70 - arguing with his girlfriend. Watched it all unfold about 50 yards back. He didn't flip it but ended up in the next lane. Scary stuff.
By the way, I actually saw some dipshit lock up his car brakes (no ABS) on the freeway doing 70 - arguing with his girlfriend. Watched it all unfold about 50 yards back. He didn't flip it but ended up in the next lane. Scary stuff.
#39
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Also, scan that 12 seconds that they advise in the MSF course. Saturday 2 of us were riding staggered, I was behind my friend, we approached a left curve at 80mph on the freeway and I noticed a car ahead in our lane swerve around an object in the road. I pulled out into the center lane (I knew no other vehicle was adjacent to me in the right lane) and my friend just saw it in time - a ladder across our lane!!
When we got off the freeway at our first traffic light he was still a little shook up and surprised I'd seen it before he had. I told him that I'm always scanning as I ride and watching cars up ahead, road surface as well as constantly checking my mirrors for what vehicles are around me.
When we got off the freeway at our first traffic light he was still a little shook up and surprised I'd seen it before he had. I told him that I'm always scanning as I ride and watching cars up ahead, road surface as well as constantly checking my mirrors for what vehicles are around me.
#40
Soft 02 - that is one gorgeous Trumpet bobber in your profile photo!