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Old 08-27-2012, 01:22 AM
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Question Grade 8 Bolt VS Grade 5?

What's the deal with grade 8 bolts on passenger pegs? Isn't a grade 5 plenty strong to hold anyone? I see HD's Sportster passenger kit comes with grade 8, which I (most likely) won't be using since I am extending the mount slightly if needed. When I look up spec's of grade 5, they are quite high already. Shear strength & tension strength are way past the limits of even the heftiest of people. Here's a few links I read (briefly) a while ago:

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...ners/index.asp
http://www.boltscience.com/pages/faq.htm
 
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I trust the MOCO engineers' specification.
 
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I think there is more to it than passenger weight. What if it gets clipped or if you drop the bike? You dont wwant that part to break off.
 
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first person to break a grade 5 would sue because it wasn't grade 8.
 
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Think about how much multiplication a lever generates.

I don't know how shear-strength is calculated, but I doubt it was at the end of a 5-inch lever.

I can't imagine the MoCo would give away Grade 8s if they could get away with using Grade 5s.
 
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^True. Maybe for if the bike is laid down on it's side the pegs help relieve some of the bikes weight?
 
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Generally speaking a grade 8 will snap before it bends. Though, start throwing S.S, higher level grade 5's in to the mix (that about match lower grade 8's), and it can become a headache to sort LOL.
 
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The Moco uses the cheapest and lowest quality parts it can get away with. They use the supplier with the lowest bid that meets the as less a quality part standard it can. As does Honda, Kawi, and the others. It's a fact of manufacturing and business. Especially one that makes a high volume assembly line product.
 

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That may be true, but I'm just talking about bolts here.
 
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There are more than a few places that you want to use Grade 8, foot peg mounts are one of them. There are multiple considerations-leverage, hitting a bump hard with all the weight on them, just to name a couple.

Another place is the handlebar riser bolts. Saw a pic last week where the handlebar riser bolts snapped on a bike that had apes with some Chinese or Taiwan risers...dunno if the aftermarket riser bolts were grade 8 or not, guy was going 60 mph when he hit a good size pothole and was lucky to make it to the side of the road with the handlebars no longer connected to the forks.
 
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