located in ca, selling a bike for my dad and he says its a 2007 heritage softail spcn, i know that means "special construction", but my question is why does the title describe it as a 2000 spcn if its a 2007, he says all spcn are registered as a yr 2000, very confusing to me, just want to make sure he is not b.s. me so i dont look like an idiot, any input is greatly appreciated.

 

...says all spcn are registered as a yr 2000...Have to say that is news to me. Can't be an 07. It goes by title and that alone. Inspect the title and ensure the blue tag on both the frame and motor match. If not the next owner will not get it registered in Kali at least.

 

it has a six digit vin on the frame, it is currently registered and the numbers on the frame match both title and registration, i found that it has a 1340 evo motor and from what i heard they stopped making them in 2000, so my conclusion would be that its registered as a 2000 because thats what motor is in it. im not 100% sure but thats my best guest.

 

SPCN (special construction) = "custom build"

Telltale sign is the "odd" VIN on title + frame so it sounds like they took a yr 2000 bike & customized it in yr 2007...make sense.

 

I'm from Cali. I built (with a custom frame, non-Harley) and registered a bike here in 2006. It was registered as a SPCN 2006 year. (So, so much for 'all' SPCN being '2000'). The VIN stamped into the frame by the guy who built the frame (in North Carolina) is the number that was used for the title.

The California CHP inspects each SPCN before ok'ing the registration. On mine, they were interested in three things primarily: VIN number (frame); engine case serial number; transmission case serial number. They want to make sure none of these items come up as 'hot'. I don't recall what other serial numbers were on the title--I'm sure the chassis number was there.

Based on my experience, I'd say the bike in question, with a 2000 SPCN title, was titled as a 'SPCN' in Cali in calendar year 2000. In any case, if it were me I'd advertise it as the year specified on the title...apparently, 2000 vice 2007.

If there's a song-and-dance that goes along with the 2007 year that is plausible and might add value to the bike, then it won't hurt to include it in a 'sales pitch'. But I'd be careful about passing along 'hearsay', i.e., stuff that's not documented, or that contradicts official documents. I sure wouldn't represent the bike other than as the year that's stated on the title.

Just a WAG, but I'd guess whoever sold the bike to your dad might have provided him with the '2007' story, and your dad's just repeating what he was told.

Alan

 

I totally agree, according to dmv a spcn is registered either as year of the bike or year of the engine so im assuming maybe its a 2007 heritage softail but with a yr 2000 1340 evo motor and was marked as a 2000 because of emissions requirements for the year of the motor. either way it has turned away a few people because of the confusion but the price is basically what a 2000 would go for. if it doesnt sell soon i just might make an offer, its very well built motor is 1340 evo bb, 5sp trans, custom paint and all that chrome b.s., he wants 7k obo so if he cant sell it i might take it home and park it next to my pan. you guys are awsome and im glad i joined this forum because of your honest opinions.

ride safe.

 

Think this is the best idea so far...

 

The DOM of any of the parts doesn't matter, it's the year (in California) you first register it that determines the year of the bike. I started my build in 2009 (with a brand new 1999 model year crate Evo engine and a Santee frame) and completed it and had it inspected by the CHP in 2010. So the bike is registered as a 2010.

As for crate Evo engines being no longer available the MoCo still sells a ton of them.

They are right here: http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/g...bmLocale=en_US