So what you are saying is that once we buy the Shoei we can ride at speeds in excess of 100 mph and we should tell the judge Coyote said it was okay? Cool.

 

I read the first few and last few pages of this comprehensive topic thread.

You can ignore the price tag because it is what's most comfortable that matters. That said, common sense dictates that what's most expensive should be the comfiest.

Common sense is not always right. I have a "long-oval" head, so the products of MOST major helmet manufacturers don't fit me. I tried on a $chuberth helmet -- which I'd consider to be the gold standard for modulars -- and I just couldn't make it fit comfortably over my Alien forehead. Same goes for $hoei lids. I had an HJC that was two sizes too large, which created all sorts of wind noise.

I wound up with an Arai Signet-Q, the only helmet on the market which is designed specifically for us long-headed folks. [This is the part where someone will pop up to contradict me and mention a few other brands; if so, I'd be happy to look into it.] But even though this was the perfect and only solution for me, it doesn't mean it'll work for you.

Go enjoy trying on 50 different helmets like I did. At least it's a learning experience.

 

The safety rating is one thing, but comfort or lack thereof is what will have you wearing it or leaving it on the shelf. Ventilation in warm/hot weather is very important or you'll be miserable. As said earlier the cheek pads can be removed for washing or to adjust the fit for you also.

My FF is a Shoei X-Eleven and it's been an excellent helmet with great ventilation. I can feel the breeze blowing over my scalp when at freeway speeds.

 

that doesn't beat wikipedia... lol.

I wonder if these folks realize that bulk of the data cited for helmet policy is produced, paid for and signed off by the insurance industry.

There are also studies that show that the plastic coatings, paints and fancy vents on top of full face helmets can in fact dig in to the deck causing a stoppage of the head even for a split second while the body continues.

At the right angles this stoppage can create massive vertebral fracturing.

Then some numb nuts runs up and yanks the helmet off so you can breathe or to restore an airway and that also does damage.

No I am not citing sources, this is a forum not my Master's thesis. I did my research found this information it is readily;y available.

I would like to suggest that anyone doing "research" first ensure that they are not pulling data provided by insurance industry funding.

 

Sure he can this is a forum not a court of law, not a fact finding commission, not a thesis or PhD candidate group. It is a discussion. The folly of people demanding someone cite sources via links on a forum like this ignores common sense, reality and experience and instead trumpets a link to a study that may or may not be done to the proper standards.

Hint: The best research and studies if we wanted to get serious and start citing cost money. Free studies may be a good starting point but the real independent research will only be available through pay for sites at 5-25 and more a pop.

Just a bit silly especially when the guy stated and opinion and that opinion did not say FF helmets are going to kill everyone etc etc.

And finally the information he has gotten is probably more relevant than test dummy research. Anyhow.... sorry drives me nuts when people get to the whole cite your source stuff on a forum.

 

You can't out argue stupid especially when they are willing to use it.

 

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wtf? no what i said was a helmet is only garuneed to limit head injurys that would or maybe sustained during an accident over not wearing one. so how in the f""'k do you go from that to me saying it is ok to exceed 100mph?

 

Jesus Christ you are a whiny *** douche bag, you are acting like a ****ing child. He didn't say all FF helmet wearers are stupid or they will die or that anyone wearing one is a moron. HE like many here are having a discussion. I COULD understand if he did that but he didn't. Unless, you are overly sensitive and pissy. Which apparently you are.

So you pop in with your cops suck and I am going to show my *** to everyone here and everyone will think I am cool because I am giving a cop **** over the internet bullshit. I for one am impressed with your bravery.

I think with the Village idiot handle you are over estimating yourself.

 

Why exactly is an insurance funded study so bad? Helmets protect, no doubt about that. They don't like big payouts for injuries, the research they fund will find the best answers.

Is there a problem with that?

 

So what do you wear when you're not on the highway and it's really hot?