General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Winnipehs Hells Angel Claims his Rights were Violated

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:06 PM
cactus789's Avatar
cactus789
cactus789 is offline
Road Captain
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Winnipegs Hells Angel Claims his Rights were Violated

Its a slippery slope when cops start making up the rules. Even in extreme cases like this, EVERYONES civil rights have to be protected.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...148837035.html
 
  #2  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:32 PM
BBStacker's Avatar
BBStacker
BBStacker is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,373
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default



And so it begins.
 
  #3  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:37 PM
lh4x4's Avatar
lh4x4
lh4x4 is offline
Extreme HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 13,402
Received 932 Likes on 574 Posts
Default

Wait for the outcome. He made a good case for his actions. Courts have ruled many times on the difference with actions between the experience of a veteran officer and a less experienced on the merit of the decisions and actions.

My best estimate is the actions of the officer have a slightly better than 50/50 odds of prevailing.
 
  #4  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:44 PM
hellbob37's Avatar
hellbob37
hellbob37 is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Never understand how a scumbag caught in an illegal act can walk or possibly walk on formality. The grit of it is he got caught. But had someone been burglarizing the shop and the officer not done what he did, he'd be internal'd either way. The justice system has become soft.
 
  #5  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:49 PM
Kowan's Avatar
Kowan
Kowan is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: So California
Posts: 7,882
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut...urth_amendment
Allow it even though he was caught dirty, and you've just opened wide the door for anyone to claim their gut feelings "knew" something wasn't right.

When they kick in your door, you won't have a legal leg to stand on.
 
  #6  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:52 PM
ImNoPrince's Avatar
ImNoPrince
ImNoPrince is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: B-More ,Md
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hellbob37
Never understand how a scumbag caught in an illegal act can walk or possibly walk on formality. The grit of it is he got caught. But had someone been burglarizing the shop and the officer not done what he did, he'd be internal'd either way. The justice system has become soft.

The Justice System has become all about the money. They know if they lock up the bad they will all be out of a job. So they give the criminals more rights then the Victims because that's their money stream .

This type of stuff goes on Daily and the Papers just report what they know will get readers to buy and read .
 
  #7  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:53 PM
AK_Rider50's Avatar
AK_Rider50
AK_Rider50 is offline
Cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It was a business, the door was open, the cop walked in what seems to have been a place open to the public if its a business in a strip mall. Not really enough information but seems to me the cop was O.K. in his actions. Even if our drug laws are screwed up, we pay to have them inforced.
 
  #8  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:53 PM
ceekay's Avatar
ceekay
ceekay is offline
Cruiser
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ft Bliss, Tx.
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I just read the whole article... Apparently, someone exited the business, saw cops, and dashed back in.... This could be enough suspicious activity to warrant justification of actions, but then again it's Canada and I am not familiar with the Canadian Bill of Rights....

Further, the perp is a known felon, Hell's Angels associate (no offense, but they're not exactly the Boy Scouts), and was caught doing blow and about to start manufacturing something. Imho, not the best guy to have on the streets. Still, he was arrested on his own property, without any sort of search warrant. I dunno how law works in Canada, but down here that would be pretty much the last nail in the coffin for this case... Unlawful search and seizure, etc.


- CK
 
  #9  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:54 PM
j1mmy's Avatar
j1mmy
j1mmy is offline
Elite HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: navarre ohio
Posts: 4,598
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

what if police have a hunch, hand cuff you and your wife, shoot your dog in front of the kids,then turn your house upside down with out bothering with a warrant.. it has happened..
 
  #10  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:55 PM
TXSwede's Avatar
TXSwede
TXSwede is offline
Elite HDF Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Phoenix Arizona {I moved}
Posts: 4,915
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

delete
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:19 PM.