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Old 04-29-2012 | 04:07 PM
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I have an 07 Road King Classic. I am getting it out for the spring now, and it will not turn over. Its been on a battery conditioner all winter and the battery is clean and fully charged. One thing odd I notice is when I turn on the ignition, the turn signal lights (in the front only) come on solid. No clicks, no nothing. Dead as a doornail. Any suggestions???
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 04:29 PM
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Kill/run switch gone bad?
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Householder
I have an 07 Road King Classic. I am getting it out for the spring now, and it will not turn over. Its been on a battery conditioner all winter and the battery is clean and fully charged. One thing odd I notice is when I turn on the ignition, the turn signal lights (in the front only) come on solid. No clicks, no nothing. Dead as a doornail. Any suggestions???
Replace the battery and check all grounds
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 04:58 PM
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Get battery load tested and start with pos and grounds...all of them. Then check all fuses and relay's. Does it have security on it.
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 06:13 PM
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2007 Diagnostic Trouble Codes
2007 Harley Davidson Diagnostic Trouble Codes
(from Service Manual 99497-07)


Getting Codes:

1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word "diag" should then appear.

4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)
P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted])
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
SP = speedometer
T = tachometer

6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC's the code will be displayed or the word "none" will appear if there are no DTC's. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

7 - Record the codes.

8 - If DTC's are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC's again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.

9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

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DTC FAULT CONDITION MODULE

“BUS Er” (TSM/HFSM) Serial Data Open/High
B0563 Battery Voltage High (TSM/TSSM)
B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low (Instruments)
B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open (Instruments)
B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage (Instruments)
B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage (Instruments)
B1008 Reset Switch Closed (Instruments)
B1121 Turn Signal Will Not Flash (HFSM)
B1122 Right Turn Signal Open (TSM)
B1123 Left Turn Signal Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1124 Right Turn Signal Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1125 Left Turn Signal Short-to-Voltage (HFSM)
B1126 Right Turn Signal Short-to-Voltage (HFSM)
B1134 Starter Output High ((TSM/TSSM)
B1135 Accelerometer Fault ((TSM/TSSM)
B1136 Accelerometer Tip-Over Self Test (HFSM)
B1141 Ignition Switch Open/Low (HFSM) ONLY
B1141 Turn signals Will Not Flash (TSM) ONLY
B1142 Internal Fault (HFSM)
B1143 Security Antenna Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1144 Security Antenna Short-to-Battery (HFSM)
B1145 Security Antenna Open (HFSM)
B1151 Sidecar BAS Low ((TSM/TSSM)
B1152 Sidecar BAS High ((TSM/TSSM)
B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range ((TSM/TSSM)
B1154 Clutch Switch Short-to-Ground (TSM/HFSM)
B1155 Neutral Switch Short-to-Ground (TSMHFSM)
B2006 Radio Switches Shorted/Stuck (Audio)
B2007 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Shorted High(Audio)
B2008 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
B2009 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2010 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted High(Audio)
B2011 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
B2012 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2013 Sidecar Switches Shorted High(Audio)
B2014 Sidecar Switches Shorted Low(Audio)

B2015 Sidecar Switches Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2016 Front Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2017 Front Speakers Open(Audio)
B2018 Front Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2019 Front Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
B2020 Rear Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2021 Rear Speakers Open(Audio)
B2022 Rear Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2023 Rear Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
B2024 Sidecar Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2025 Sidecar Speakers Open(Audio)
B2026 Sidecar Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2027 Sidecar Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low (EFI)
P0108 Map Sensor High (EFI)
P0112 IAT Sensor Voltage Low (EFI)
P0113 IAT Sensor Voltage Open/High (EFI)
P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low (EFI)
P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High (EFI)
P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low (EFI)
P0123 TP Sensor High (EFI)
P0131 Front O2 Sensor Low (EFI)
P0132 Front O2 Sensor High (EFI)
P0134 Front O2 Sensor Open/Not Responding (EFI)
P0151 Rear O2 Sensor Low (EFI)
P0152 Rear O2 Sensor High (EFI)
P0154 Rear O2 Sensor Open/Not Responding (EFI)
P0261 Front Injector Open/Low (EFI)
P0262 Front Injector High (EFI)
P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low (EFI)
P0264 Rear Injector High (EFI)
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent (EFI)
P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error (EFI)
P0501 VSS Low (EFI)
P0502 VSS High/Open (EFI)
P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control (EFI)
P0562 Battery Voltage Low (EFI)
P0563 Battery Voltage High (EFI)
P0603 ECM EEPROM Error (EFI)
P0605 ECM Flash Error (EFI)
P0661 Active Intake Solenoid Open (EFI)
P0662 Active Intake High/Shorted (EFI)
P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low (EFI)
P1002 System relay Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1003 System relay Contacts Open (EFI)
P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed (EFI)
P1009 Incorrect Password (EFI)
P1010 Missing Password (EFI)
P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low (EFI)
P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1353 Front Cylinder No Combustion (EFI)
P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low (EFI)
P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion (EFI)
P1357 Intermittent Secondary Front (EFI)
P1358 Intermittent Secondary Rear (EFI)
P1475 Exhaust Actuator Position Error (EFI)
P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low (EFI)
P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted (EFI)
U1016 Loss of ICM/ECM Serial Data (Instruments)
U1016 Loss of Serial Data(Audio)
U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data (TSM/HFSM))
U1064 Loss of (TSM/TSSM) Serial Data (EFI)
U1064 Loss of (TSM/TSSM/HFSM) Serial Data (Instruments)
U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data (EFI)
U1255 Missing Message at Speedometer (EFI)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (EFI)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (Instruments)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (TSM/TSSM/HSFM)
U1300 Serial Data Low (EFI)
U1300 Serial Data Low (Instruments)
U1300, U1301 Stalls, then Starts(Audio)
U1300 Serial Data Low (TSM/HFSM)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (EFI)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (Instruments)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (TSM/TSSM)
U1302 Infotainment BUS Shorted Low/High(Audio)
U1306 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with Hands free Phone Module(Audio)
U1307 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with CB Module(Audio)
U1313 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with XM Module(Audio)
U1314 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with Navigation Module(Audio)
U1317 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with High Output Amplifier(Audio)


ATS – Air Temperature Sensor

BAS – Bank Angle Sensor

CCM – Cruise Control Module

CKP – Crank Position Sensor. The CKP generates an "AC signal" which is sent to the ECM where it is used to reference engine position TDC and speed. Home position established by taking readings off the 22 teeth on the alternator rotor.

DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes

ECM – Electronic Control Module. (The Computer) Computes the spark advance for proper ignition timing and fuel control based on sensor inputs (from CKP, MAP & TP sensors) and controls the low-voltage circuits for the ignition coils and injectors. The dwell time for the ignition coil is also calculated in the microprocessor and is dependent upon battery voltage. The programmed dwell feature gives adequate spark at all speeds.

ECT – Engine Coolant Temperature. Sensor also controls the cooling fan relay that provides 12 Vdc to the fans.

EFI – Electronic Fuel Injection

EFP – Electronic Fuel Pump

ET – Engine Temperature sensor

FI – Fuel Injectors

FPR – Fuel Pressure regulator

IAC – Idle Air Control actuator

IAT – Intake Air Temperature sensor

ISS – Ion Sensing System…detonation detection

MAP – manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. The MAP sensor monitors the intake manifold pressure (vacuum) and sends the information to the ECM. The EMC then adjusts the spark and fuel-timing advance curves for optimum performance.

TP – Throttle Position Sensor

TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)

TSM/TSSM/HFSM Turn Signal/Turn Signal Security Module/Hands Free Security Module

VE – Volume Efficiency

VSS – Vehicle Speed Sensor. Used as an input for idle speed control
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tinmarine
2007 Diagnostic Trouble Codes
2007 Harley Davidson Diagnostic Trouble Codes
(from Service Manual 99497-07)


Getting Codes:

1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word "diag" should then appear.

4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)
P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted])
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
SP = speedometer
T = tachometer

6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC's the code will be displayed or the word "none" will appear if there are no DTC's. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

7 - Record the codes.

8 - If DTC's are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC's again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.

9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

--------------------------

DTC FAULT CONDITION MODULE

“BUS Er” (TSM/HFSM) Serial Data Open/High
B0563 Battery Voltage High (TSM/TSSM)
B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low (Instruments)
B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open (Instruments)
B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage (Instruments)
B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage (Instruments)
B1008 Reset Switch Closed (Instruments)
B1121 Turn Signal Will Not Flash (HFSM)
B1122 Right Turn Signal Open (TSM)
B1123 Left Turn Signal Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1124 Right Turn Signal Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1125 Left Turn Signal Short-to-Voltage (HFSM)
B1126 Right Turn Signal Short-to-Voltage (HFSM)
B1134 Starter Output High ((TSM/TSSM)
B1135 Accelerometer Fault ((TSM/TSSM)
B1136 Accelerometer Tip-Over Self Test (HFSM)
B1141 Ignition Switch Open/Low (HFSM) ONLY
B1141 Turn signals Will Not Flash (TSM) ONLY
B1142 Internal Fault (HFSM)
B1143 Security Antenna Short-to-Ground (HFSM)
B1144 Security Antenna Short-to-Battery (HFSM)
B1145 Security Antenna Open (HFSM)
B1151 Sidecar BAS Low ((TSM/TSSM)
B1152 Sidecar BAS High ((TSM/TSSM)
B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range ((TSM/TSSM)
B1154 Clutch Switch Short-to-Ground (TSM/HFSM)
B1155 Neutral Switch Short-to-Ground (TSMHFSM)
B2006 Radio Switches Shorted/Stuck (Audio)
B2007 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Shorted High(Audio)
B2008 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
B2009 Handlebar (Audio) Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
Handlebar Mode Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
Handlebar PTT/Squelch Switch Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2010 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted High(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted High(Audio)
B2011 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted Low(Audio)
B2012 Passenger (Audio)/PTT Switch Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
Passenger Mode Switch Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2013 Sidecar Switches Shorted High(Audio)
B2014 Sidecar Switches Shorted Low(Audio)

B2015 Sidecar Switches Shorted Stuck or Open(Audio)
B2016 Front Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2017 Front Speakers Open(Audio)
B2018 Front Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2019 Front Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
B2020 Rear Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2021 Rear Speakers Open(Audio)
B2022 Rear Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2023 Rear Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
B2024 Sidecar Speakers Shorted(Audio)
B2025 Sidecar Speakers Open(Audio)
B2026 Sidecar Speakers Shorted to Ground(Audio)
B2027 Sidecar Speakers Shorted to Battery(Audio)
P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low (EFI)
P0108 Map Sensor High (EFI)
P0112 IAT Sensor Voltage Low (EFI)
P0113 IAT Sensor Voltage Open/High (EFI)
P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low (EFI)
P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High (EFI)
P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low (EFI)
P0123 TP Sensor High (EFI)
P0131 Front O2 Sensor Low (EFI)
P0132 Front O2 Sensor High (EFI)
P0134 Front O2 Sensor Open/Not Responding (EFI)
P0151 Rear O2 Sensor Low (EFI)
P0152 Rear O2 Sensor High (EFI)
P0154 Rear O2 Sensor Open/Not Responding (EFI)
P0261 Front Injector Open/Low (EFI)
P0262 Front Injector High (EFI)
P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low (EFI)
P0264 Rear Injector High (EFI)
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent (EFI)
P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error (EFI)
P0501 VSS Low (EFI)
P0502 VSS High/Open (EFI)
P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control (EFI)
P0562 Battery Voltage Low (EFI)
P0563 Battery Voltage High (EFI)
P0603 ECM EEPROM Error (EFI)
P0605 ECM Flash Error (EFI)
P0661 Active Intake Solenoid Open (EFI)
P0662 Active Intake High/Shorted (EFI)
P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low (EFI)
P1002 System relay Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1003 System relay Contacts Open (EFI)
P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed (EFI)
P1009 Incorrect Password (EFI)
P1010 Missing Password (EFI)
P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low (EFI)
P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1353 Front Cylinder No Combustion (EFI)
P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low (EFI)
P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted (EFI)
P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion (EFI)
P1357 Intermittent Secondary Front (EFI)
P1358 Intermittent Secondary Rear (EFI)
P1475 Exhaust Actuator Position Error (EFI)
P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low (EFI)
P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted (EFI)
U1016 Loss of ICM/ECM Serial Data (Instruments)
U1016 Loss of Serial Data(Audio)
U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data (TSM/HFSM))
U1064 Loss of (TSM/TSSM) Serial Data (EFI)
U1064 Loss of (TSM/TSSM/HFSM) Serial Data (Instruments)
U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data (EFI)
U1255 Missing Message at Speedometer (EFI)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (EFI)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (Instruments)
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message (TSM/TSSM/HSFM)
U1300 Serial Data Low (EFI)
U1300 Serial Data Low (Instruments)
U1300, U1301 Stalls, then Starts(Audio)
U1300 Serial Data Low (TSM/HFSM)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (EFI)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (Instruments)
U1301 Serial Data Open/High (TSM/TSSM)
U1302 Infotainment BUS Shorted Low/High(Audio)
U1306 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with Hands free Phone Module(Audio)
U1307 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with CB Module(Audio)
U1313 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with XM Module(Audio)
U1314 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with Navigation Module(Audio)
U1317 Infotainment BUS Lost Communications with High Output Amplifier(Audio)


ATS – Air Temperature Sensor

BAS – Bank Angle Sensor

CCM – Cruise Control Module

CKP – Crank Position Sensor. The CKP generates an "AC signal" which is sent to the ECM where it is used to reference engine position TDC and speed. Home position established by taking readings off the 22 teeth on the alternator rotor.

DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes

ECM – Electronic Control Module. (The Computer) Computes the spark advance for proper ignition timing and fuel control based on sensor inputs (from CKP, MAP & TP sensors) and controls the low-voltage circuits for the ignition coils and injectors. The dwell time for the ignition coil is also calculated in the microprocessor and is dependent upon battery voltage. The programmed dwell feature gives adequate spark at all speeds.

ECT – Engine Coolant Temperature. Sensor also controls the cooling fan relay that provides 12 Vdc to the fans.

EFI – Electronic Fuel Injection

EFP – Electronic Fuel Pump

ET – Engine Temperature sensor

FI – Fuel Injectors

FPR – Fuel Pressure regulator

IAC – Idle Air Control actuator

IAT – Intake Air Temperature sensor

ISS – Ion Sensing System…detonation detection

MAP – manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. The MAP sensor monitors the intake manifold pressure (vacuum) and sends the information to the ECM. The EMC then adjusts the spark and fuel-timing advance curves for optimum performance.

TP – Throttle Position Sensor

TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)

TSM/TSSM/HFSM Turn Signal/Turn Signal Security Module/Hands Free Security Module

VE – Volume Efficiency

VSS – Vehicle Speed Sensor. Used as an input for idle speed control
Damn.....looks like you did your homework! Very good info...You get an A on this one!
 
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Old 04-29-2012 | 08:47 PM
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My 07 batt seemed OK, but it had to be replaced this spring..

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Old 04-29-2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Householder
I have an 07 Road King Classic. I am getting it out for the spring now, and it will not turn over. Its been on a battery conditioner all winter and the battery is clean and fully charged. One thing odd I notice is when I turn on the ignition, the turn signal lights (in the front only) come on solid. No clicks, no nothing. Dead as a doornail. Any suggestions???
New key fob battery if it has security.

Mark
 
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