Watched A Friend Go Down..
#41
I read stories like this to remind myself to never get complacent. Glad that nobody was seriously hurt. Use your friends accident as a training lesson on how fast things can go bad. Leave yourself room and a way out. Those lessons from way back on the MSF training still hold true.
#42
The suggested rule is 12 seconds. It takes you a couple of seconds to see what is going on, a couple more seconds to react and depending on speed several seconds to slow down enough to safely avoid the problem. Staggering + 12 second rule can keep one safe.
That being said, I am very happy your friend is okay.
That being said, I am very happy your friend is okay.
I was on a toys for tots ride years ago, bikes nose to tail - I hated it and was telling myself that I was going to bug out and never do this again - when 3 bikes in front of me got tangled up and went down. I missed the sliding bikes and riders, and when I stopped to help, I did the same thing with the side stand, bike fell over.
#43
I stopped my bike in median after I passed by friends bike....in my hurry to get off the bike and find my friend I didn't get the kickstand down all the way and the bike started going over and I couldn't stop it. No real damage to may bike. Yes it never should have happened. I agree about good advice and all advice is well taken but how I read some of the post they were more like statements of what we did wrong not advice...maybe I'm just cranky today. we ride in groups a lot and it's always good spacing and always in the correct formation...all in all it could have been a lot worse.
Guess it couldn't have looked too bad because the cop that was across the street in a parking lot never came over
Guess it couldn't have looked too bad because the cop that was across the street in a parking lot never came over
#44
The crashes I've had have been few, fortunately. I learned from each one. It's probably not a bad thing to tell another man (or woman) what you think went wrong in their case. Such could be helpful for someone who's not been riding all that long, e.g., 3 years. It's someplace to start from, in understanding. But in the final analysis, it's up to the rider, him- or herself, to analyze the accident, understand it and why it happened, and if there's anything that could have been done to avoid it, to take steps to do so in the future.
Commiseration is ok, too. And maybe that's all the OP was after. But I'd recommend thinking about what happened, and making a plan so that it's never likely to happen to him again.
Alan
Commiseration is ok, too. And maybe that's all the OP was after. But I'd recommend thinking about what happened, and making a plan so that it's never likely to happen to him again.
Alan
#46
I like riding with a group, but it seems like mostly what I do is pay attention to the guys in front, side, and back of me instead of enjoying the ride.
#47
I like riding with a group, but it seems like mostly what I do is pay attention to the guys in front, side, and back of me instead of enjoying the ride.[/quote]
This is the main reason I don't do group rides anymore, besides you always have two different people wanting to go two different routes or wanting to stop and and eat at two different spots. The hell with all that BS my wife and I always have the best time when we are by ourselves. To the OP glad to hear you all are ok, and as far as the negative opinions just remember opinions are like ********. Live and learn is all you can do.
This is the main reason I don't do group rides anymore, besides you always have two different people wanting to go two different routes or wanting to stop and and eat at two different spots. The hell with all that BS my wife and I always have the best time when we are by ourselves. To the OP glad to hear you all are ok, and as far as the negative opinions just remember opinions are like ********. Live and learn is all you can do.
#49
We all warn each other of stuff, some hand signals and a good knowledge of everyone else's ability in a group leads to a good time had by all, I have one buddy who when we ride together we ride real close because we know how each other ride but we still ride staggered, if we have to drop in line then the distance heads out a lot, I avoid riding in big groups with strangers.
#50
ABS cannot make up for stupid riders who are following too close.