Parking
#51
04-10-2012, 03:21 PM
When I took the MSC I was told you I was to only park in parking spots. I remember as a kid my dad always parked his motorcycle in the cross section at the end of parking spots. Does anyone still do this?
I have always figured that there is more than enough room to park two motorcycles in a normal parks spot but at work the guys park in the middle of a spot not allowing room for another motorcycle.
Since I am new to riding I was wanting to know what the normal practice is when it comes to parking. Do you park at the end of spots? Do you leave room in standard spots for another bike? Do you squeeze your bike beside another bike?
I have always figured that there is more than enough room to park two motorcycles in a normal parks spot but at work the guys park in the middle of a spot not allowing room for another motorcycle.
Since I am new to riding I was wanting to know what the normal practice is when it comes to parking. Do you park at the end of spots? Do you leave room in standard spots for another bike? Do you squeeze your bike beside another bike?
Don't ask how I know both of these to be true and I won't be red faced.
#52
04-10-2012, 03:49 PM
Speaking of parking more then one bike in a parking spot.
A few years ago our chapter went to a somewhat local eating establishment. There was a parking attendant there and it cost $5 to park. When we started to put 4 bikes in each spot, the attendant said that will be $20. We said we're only using one spot. He said it didn't matter - sooooo - we moved all the bikes into each individual spot - taking up about 40 parking spots. The owner came out yelling in some foreign language. We explained to him what we wanted to do - he fired the attendant on the spot and gave us 1/2 price on our dinners.
Traffic laws don't pertain to private property unless the owners agrees.
The main reason I use to park in the "End Zones" was to keep an eye on my bike while inside and believed a thief would not attempt to steal it and go on to easier pickings where nobody could see them. I never once thought I was special, never have never will. Back in the day it wasn't a problem - no one ever minded. Now days the world is full of a$$holes that can't abide anyone else doing something they don't do and they think is wrong - whether it is or not.
A few years ago our chapter went to a somewhat local eating establishment. There was a parking attendant there and it cost $5 to park. When we started to put 4 bikes in each spot, the attendant said that will be $20. We said we're only using one spot. He said it didn't matter - sooooo - we moved all the bikes into each individual spot - taking up about 40 parking spots. The owner came out yelling in some foreign language. We explained to him what we wanted to do - he fired the attendant on the spot and gave us 1/2 price on our dinners.
Traffic laws don't pertain to private property unless the owners agrees.
The main reason I use to park in the "End Zones" was to keep an eye on my bike while inside and believed a thief would not attempt to steal it and go on to easier pickings where nobody could see them. I never once thought I was special, never have never will. Back in the day it wasn't a problem - no one ever minded. Now days the world is full of a$$holes that can't abide anyone else doing something they don't do and they think is wrong - whether it is or not.
#53
04-10-2012, 04:09 PM
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When alone I take up the entire space for myself. I got blocked in once, trying to be nice during a bike nite, never again! As for where to park, your probably best off parking only in designated parking spaces. Anywhere else gives someone the right to be a dick!
#54
04-10-2012, 04:57 PM
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The problem I see with parking on the sidewalk as I have seen this happen at some places that a lot of bikes congregate is that they take up the whole sidewalk. If a person like my wife who is handicapped with a wheel chair or some of the larger scooters they can not get through the bikes on the sidewalk. I would think the police or the owner of the establishment would take a dim view of that.
#55
04-10-2012, 05:41 PM
Not true. Businesses are required to provide adequate parking for their customers. The standard for retail is 1 parking space for every 150 sq ft of floor area, but it does depend on the type of business. A warehouse used as storage for example, is not held to the same standard as a retail outlet.
As far as how I park, I use an entire space unless I am riding with someone else.
#56
04-10-2012, 05:50 PM
For me it's a case by case judgement call. Most of the time, if there is room to do so without being in the way, I'll park on a sidewalk or the hashed areas (non-handicap) in order to leave an extra space for a car. I've seen car owners go apeshit because a single bike took up a WHOLE spot. This is especially true in parking lots that are very busy.
I don't think I'm special nor do I do it to get right up close. The reality is that bikes have certain advantages and drawbacks compared to a car. I don't bitch about the city not putting roofs over roadways so I don't get wet in the rain, I don't wear a seatbelt on my bike, it doesn't have a third brake light or backup lights, doesn't need a front license plate, and I don't wear a helmet in my car...well...except at the strip but they require that. Yes, bikes are motor vehicles but to say they need to obey ALL the same laws as cars is not only wrong but a little unrealistic.
Some places around here do offer motorcycle parking and when they do, I use it. Though that doesn't mean cars can't use it either...
I don't think I'm special nor do I do it to get right up close. The reality is that bikes have certain advantages and drawbacks compared to a car. I don't bitch about the city not putting roofs over roadways so I don't get wet in the rain, I don't wear a seatbelt on my bike, it doesn't have a third brake light or backup lights, doesn't need a front license plate, and I don't wear a helmet in my car...well...except at the strip but they require that. Yes, bikes are motor vehicles but to say they need to obey ALL the same laws as cars is not only wrong but a little unrealistic.
Some places around here do offer motorcycle parking and when they do, I use it. Though that doesn't mean cars can't use it either...
#57
04-10-2012, 05:51 PM
cross section at the end of parking spots
As far as parking in a commercial lot, for the most part are private. There is no enforcement outside of a fire zone or handicap. both would or should be covered under municipal ordinances. Outside of that there is nothing covering the parking spaces.
Now there is one area to consider. Speaking only from NJ law, privtae commercial property owners can turn over enforcement of their lot to the town/city. In that case careless or reckless operation can become an issue. In addition, some owners and cities have ordinances to cover those that park across two spaces in fear of a door opening on their car. Rare but it does happen. (Willowbrook Mall in Wayne, NJ is one example.)
But short of specific ordinances, commercial lots are mostly unregulated. City street are a totally different animal. Two bikes in one spot has never been an issue anywhere I've gone although with my bike in angled parking setups I find one takes up the space pretty well.
Some places around here do offer motorcycle parking and when they do, I use it. Though that doesn't mean cars can't use it either...
Last edited by rscalzo; 04-10-2012 at 05:53 PM.
#58
04-10-2012, 06:01 PM
Road Warrior
Went to Walmart and the parking lot was full and I circled a few times and could not find a spot up close. So I was backing into a spot that was for off. The security truck pulls up and the security guard tells me to go park up front in the hash marks. He said it is easier for them to watch my bike if its up front. Been parking in the hash marks ever since unless I get the first opening.
#59
04-10-2012, 06:06 PM
Road Warrior
Again, you miss the point and further prove it. You think you're something special. End of story, IMO.
Let's see,
A: park in a designated spot like normal people do
I see you are self proclaimed decider on who is normal or not. Nice
B: park where I'm not supposed to and in such a way that creates a hazard for everyone else because I think I'm a bad *** and/or I have something to prove and/or I need the attention?
Hmmm, I choose... wait for it... wait for it... A!
I did state that I park on sidewalks (when it doesn't impede was the qualifier).
Uhhh... because it's common sense.
To you.
Most who do it think the same way you do. You either have an ax to grind, something to prove, or truly don't realize how it makes you look.
I get that is how you think. Not my problem you are narrowminded.
Motorcycles are considered "motor vehicles" and have to abide by the same laws as cars, truck, etc. So, would you park your car on the sidewalk, even though there was PLENTY of room for people to walk by and then act surprised when it got towed or ticketed?
heheheh, it's Tuesday and I'm bored!
So you didn't look it up! Your just spouting out your ***! No I wouldn't park my car on the sidewalk because it takes up a normal car's parking space.
Come on Man, you have to admit that threads like this are actually GOOD for the forum on some level. It keeps people interested, keeps people talking, shows a lot of different opinions & different personality types, etc., etc. The entertainment value is exceptional!
Oh Geez, a completely different situation, but don't get me started on those bastards! HAH!
Let's see,
A: park in a designated spot like normal people do
I see you are self proclaimed decider on who is normal or not. Nice
B: park where I'm not supposed to and in such a way that creates a hazard for everyone else because I think I'm a bad *** and/or I have something to prove and/or I need the attention?
Hmmm, I choose... wait for it... wait for it... A!
I did state that I park on sidewalks (when it doesn't impede was the qualifier).
Uhhh... because it's common sense.
To you.
Most who do it think the same way you do. You either have an ax to grind, something to prove, or truly don't realize how it makes you look.
I get that is how you think. Not my problem you are narrowminded.
Motorcycles are considered "motor vehicles" and have to abide by the same laws as cars, truck, etc. So, would you park your car on the sidewalk, even though there was PLENTY of room for people to walk by and then act surprised when it got towed or ticketed?
heheheh, it's Tuesday and I'm bored!
So you didn't look it up! Your just spouting out your ***! No I wouldn't park my car on the sidewalk because it takes up a normal car's parking space.
Come on Man, you have to admit that threads like this are actually GOOD for the forum on some level. It keeps people interested, keeps people talking, shows a lot of different opinions & different personality types, etc., etc. The entertainment value is exceptional!
Oh Geez, a completely different situation, but don't get me started on those bastards! HAH!
Last edited by gotnspikes; 04-10-2012 at 06:44 PM.