Suspension- Tuned the bike-now tune the rider?
#1
Suspension- Tuned the bike-now tune the rider?
Today's riding realization-
Over the past few months I have added some suspension goodies to my 98 Wide Glide, including Ohlins out back and some front end magic. This, on top of the Metzlers, the Tru-track and aligning the whole bike, has resulted in a very capable ride! I am still tweaking the settings to tune in the perfect ride.
Sunny day today, so I rode my favorite short and twisty road close to home and IT HIT ME! My Harley is now way more capable of riding the corners hard than I am. The ride is much nicer on smooth and straight roads, but it really shines in the twistys! I can (could) go faster than before, but noticeably, my skills have not improved with the capabilities of the bike.
I am just an average rider, safe enough on the highways and around town. I tend to ride (and drive) conservatively on backroads, and a couple guys I ride with are always waiting for me and a couple other buddies to catch up. Never had a problem with it. They have years of riding skill, and the guts to back it up. They also ride FXDXs. But in reality, a a skilled rider could probably keep up to them on my bike even when it was stock. Now that it is 'tuned for performance' it gives me some assistance. But I believe the next step is to get some advanced riding skills.
Thus my question-
What is the next step?
Is there a Harley Performance riding school, like sportbike guys have?
How about track days on Harleys?
How have YOU improved your riding skills? Books, video suggestions, etc?
Thought I would throw it out there and see what the reaction is.
Ride safe, everyone.
Over the past few months I have added some suspension goodies to my 98 Wide Glide, including Ohlins out back and some front end magic. This, on top of the Metzlers, the Tru-track and aligning the whole bike, has resulted in a very capable ride! I am still tweaking the settings to tune in the perfect ride.
Sunny day today, so I rode my favorite short and twisty road close to home and IT HIT ME! My Harley is now way more capable of riding the corners hard than I am. The ride is much nicer on smooth and straight roads, but it really shines in the twistys! I can (could) go faster than before, but noticeably, my skills have not improved with the capabilities of the bike.
I am just an average rider, safe enough on the highways and around town. I tend to ride (and drive) conservatively on backroads, and a couple guys I ride with are always waiting for me and a couple other buddies to catch up. Never had a problem with it. They have years of riding skill, and the guts to back it up. They also ride FXDXs. But in reality, a a skilled rider could probably keep up to them on my bike even when it was stock. Now that it is 'tuned for performance' it gives me some assistance. But I believe the next step is to get some advanced riding skills.
Thus my question-
What is the next step?
Is there a Harley Performance riding school, like sportbike guys have?
How about track days on Harleys?
How have YOU improved your riding skills? Books, video suggestions, etc?
Thought I would throw it out there and see what the reaction is.
Ride safe, everyone.
#2
If you really want to learn to ride fast, then the next step is taking a track school. Forget the books and vids, hands on go fast schooling is the only way. Not a Harley track day either, I mean a real race school. Look around. I went to Keith Code at Willow Springs in another life, lol.
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Not really looking to ride 'fast', but sure would like to be able to turn up the speed when needed.
I think I'm looking for cornering techniques, lane set up, good braking, etc.
I think I'm looking for cornering techniques, lane set up, good braking, etc.
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I think it comes down to practice, practice, practice. Pick a section of road with the twists you like and focus on your counter steering, eye's and head up looking into the turn, lane position in, through and out. Once it "clicks' your muscle memory takes over and each time you can add a little more aggression. But never enough that you loose control. Stay within your comfort zone and feel the bike.
Be cool, ride safe. my2¢.
Be cool, ride safe. my2¢.
#5
murd, you know the road from Dundarave to Horseshoe Bay!
The improvements are tempting me to GO DEEPER.
Can't wait until summer.And the interior roads.
The improvements are tempting me to GO DEEPER.
Can't wait until summer.And the interior roads.
#6
When I got my first Harley(after sportbike and supermoto) It sucked. After some suspension, fork upgrades it's a blast. The bikes are not bad at all handling wise with some tweaks- you will learn not to be so scared anymore now that it is ready for you to up the pace.
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What mods did you do to the forks??
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Learning and practicing how to brake and turn, and how different inputs, like trail braking, effect the bike aren't a bad idea for anyone who rides. I changed my suspension recently and it's taking a while to have faith in the bike after riding so long with the stock setup. There are some good books out there that you can read and practice the techniques, but the Kieth Code schools are top notch and you can rent a bike from them.
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Learning and practicing how to brake and turn, and how different inputs, like trail braking, effect the bike aren't a bad idea for anyone who rides. I changed my suspension recently and it's taking a while to have faith in the bike after riding so long with the stock setup. There are some good books out there that you can read and practice the techniques, but the Kieth Code schools are top notch and you can rent a bike from them.
The handling is better even when I am 'cruising' but I notice it really shines when I hit the corners faster. I've read up on some good hi-performance driving practices, and starting to use them more. Very cool stuff. Working for me even with the big old 16" apes !
As far as the fork mods, I'm using fabrik8rs modified Ricors, Racetech springs, and Amsoil 5W.
Ohlins out back, Metzler tires, and a tru-track.