Harley or BMW
#161
01-04-2007, 11:43 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
ORIGINAL: 77Tulsa
It's about time to HIJACK this ****** F@#KER!! KEEP YOUR FRICKEN KEY BOARDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM AND TELL ME.Does your PizzaHut haveWing Street Wings, and what is your favorite flavor?
It's about time to HIJACK this ****** F@#KER!! KEEP YOUR FRICKEN KEY BOARDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM AND TELL ME.Does your PizzaHut haveWing Street Wings, and what is your favorite flavor?
#164
01-04-2007, 11:52 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
Adding less restrictive exhaust and intake would only amplify the lean condition, making the remap of the FI system even more necessary.
ORIGINAL: BadBobOk
Aren't the '07's running so lean that you basically have to add pipes, A/C and a SERT or PCIII just to keep from cooking the rider and keep your headers from turning blue? What problems do these mods cause?
ORIGINAL: TowJam
Not really. Harley is relatively low tech and is using an architecture that has been perfected through the years (the internal oil lines they've added in the past year for example). On the other hand, BMW puts a lot of cutting edge technology on their bikes - traction control, tire pressure monitoring, canbus electrical system, etc. and as a result, a BMW owner is more likely to encounter bugs with the new technology. One of the biggest maintenance issues with BMW is the rear Paralever shaft drive system. Despite BMW's marketing materials, it's not maintenance free and failure to take care of it can ultimately put you on the side of the road.
Having owned 4 Harleys and now on my 4th BMW, I would concur that a stock* Harley is probably the most reliable and lowest maintenance of pretty much any bike currently on the market.
* You start dicking around with engine and exhaustmods and all bets are off.
my $.02 worth
Not really. Harley is relatively low tech and is using an architecture that has been perfected through the years (the internal oil lines they've added in the past year for example). On the other hand, BMW puts a lot of cutting edge technology on their bikes - traction control, tire pressure monitoring, canbus electrical system, etc. and as a result, a BMW owner is more likely to encounter bugs with the new technology. One of the biggest maintenance issues with BMW is the rear Paralever shaft drive system. Despite BMW's marketing materials, it's not maintenance free and failure to take care of it can ultimately put you on the side of the road.
Having owned 4 Harleys and now on my 4th BMW, I would concur that a stock* Harley is probably the most reliable and lowest maintenance of pretty much any bike currently on the market.
* You start dicking around with engine and exhaustmods and all bets are off.
my $.02 worth
#165
01-05-2007, 02:31 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
Aren't the '07's running so lean that you basically have to add pipes, A/C and a SERT or PCIII just to keep from cooking the rider and keep your headers from turning blue? What problems do these mods cause?
Even then it still runs cool compared to the heat the Honda ST1300 and Yamaha FJR1300 generates. Now those are engines that run hot.
Don't get caught up with all the modifications if you don't want to do them.
#166
01-05-2007, 09:30 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
Even then it still runs cool compared to the heat the Honda ST1300 and Yamaha FJR1300 generates. Now those are engines that run hot.
#167
01-05-2007, 09:42 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
ORIGINAL: 77Tulsa
Does your PizzaHut haveWing Street Wings, and what is your favorite flavor?
Does your PizzaHut haveWing Street Wings, and what is your favorite flavor?
) . YUM!
#168
01-05-2007, 09:44 AM
RE: Harley or BMW
The new Pizza Hut Wingstreet buffalo sauces are outstanding - especially the "Medium Hot"! Have you tried them yet? Also, try the Spicy Asian (the flavor ) . YUM!
) . YUM!
(Anyway, Domino's has the spiciest wings. They make my eyes water as if I'm watching "Old Yeller".)
#169
01-05-2007, 02:19 PM
RE: Harley or BMW
ORIGINAL: 1200c
The twin cam engine is just a hot running engine. The SERT and PCIII help optimize the AFR for performance and in the process it helps with some of the heat. You can optimize it all you like and make it as rich as you want and it will still be a hot running engine (just a tad less). The sportster engine that is suppose to be just as lean from the factory doesn't run nearly as hot. The old Evo big twin engines didn't run nearly as hot either.
Even then it still runs cool compared to the heat the Honda ST1300 and Yamaha FJR1300 generates. Now those are engines that run hot.
Don't get caught up with all the modifications if you don't want to do them.
The twin cam engine is just a hot running engine. The SERT and PCIII help optimize the AFR for performance and in the process it helps with some of the heat. You can optimize it all you like and make it as rich as you want and it will still be a hot running engine (just a tad less). The sportster engine that is suppose to be just as lean from the factory doesn't run nearly as hot. The old Evo big twin engines didn't run nearly as hot either.
Even then it still runs cool compared to the heat the Honda ST1300 and Yamaha FJR1300 generates. Now those are engines that run hot.
Don't get caught up with all the modifications if you don't want to do them.
#170
01-05-2007, 02:24 PM
RE: Harley or BMW
I like the ones with those little pepper chunkies on them that will eat a hole in your tongue unless you stick your tongue into a glass of ice cold beer! Oh, was this thread about somethin else that matters more in life?
ORIGINAL: TowJam
No fair! Don't hijack our pissing contest.
(Anyway, Domino's has the spiciest wings. They make my eyes water as if I'm watching "Old Yeller".)
The new Pizza Hut Wingstreet buffalo sauces are outstanding - especially the "Medium Hot"! Have you tried them yet? Also, try the Spicy Asian (the flavor ) . YUM!
) . YUM!
(Anyway, Domino's has the spiciest wings. They make my eyes water as if I'm watching "Old Yeller".)